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Fore Right said:
Wow AW is it so hard to just say

"Yeah you know what Bryson is doing a lot of good stuff on You Tube that is helping grab a new audience by having guests like Steph Curry and Kevin Hart etc that bring in new viewers to the game of golf, kudos to him for trying to do something different when many pro's are just not bothering other than playing tournaments"

He has over 2.5 MILLION subscribers , The core age group of his subscribers is the 25-34 age group.
So when we know the average age of TV viewers is around 65 I think its safe to say he is attracting a new audience to golf.

Or does he have to be on the PGA Tour before you will say that....

Jeeezzz dude.....Your hatred for Liv golfers blinds you to any good stuff they are doing..

Go on I dare you to say Bryson is really good for the game ... go on , deep breath... you can do it ....
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Some people simply can’t accept they’re wrong or facts prove them wrong. Some are just bitter and are stubborn and believe their view is the only right view. Some are just a pain in the arse!

In this case everything you’ve posted is factual and correct. Of Brysons viewers pure law of averages will dictate they’re not golf fans that have always watched. There will be a lot of newcomers amongst them but point that out to certain posters and they’ll cry otherwise just to have something to say. 👌
 
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BubbaP said:
He was essentially a stand in, surely relegation would only apply to a full season player - on a team or one of the 2 'wild cards'.
Click bait
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He played over 3/4 of the events on the schedule - he had a contract with LIV

If he wasn’t valid for “relegation” why have him on the OOM list and in a drop zone

It’s this sort of stuff that doesn’t help them and makes a mockery of pathways - same as when they brought back relegated players last season

Is it happening because they are missing out on getting players to join them - seems the young Ayora has turned them down twice now

Flushing It is very much a significant voice when it comes to LIV and he doesn’t post click bait
 
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Arthur Wedge said:
He played over 3/4 of the events on the schedule - he had a contract with LIV

If he wasn’t valid for “relegation” why have him on the OOM list and in a drop zone

It’s this sort of stuff that doesn’t help them and makes a mockery of pathways - same as when they brought back relegated players last season

Is it happening because they are missing out on getting players to join them - seems the young Ayora has turned them down twice now

Flushing It is very much a significant voice when it comes to LIV and he doesn’t post click bait
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Last time I played at the club, Tom was there. He got a fine at the end of the round as his phone went off…..it was Mickelson phoning him 😂
 
Fore Right said:
AW Liv negative spin shocker :rolleyes:
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You are very much clearly just a LIV fan , your history shows as such but that post is not me doing any spin - that’s a very prominent social media person who has been very much at the forefront for LIV news - it’s the guy that was breaking the news about Rahm , his posting history shows how connected he is with LIV

Is his post not valid then ?
 
Maybe one of Tom's connections within LIV is a player or caddy that has been negatively affected by relegation this year and he's been getting it in the ear about it.. Masaveu was a reserve player at the end of 2025, but in the 7 events he played as part of the fireballs, he comfortably averaged a top 30 position, Poulter - the last man to make the cut for the drop zone averaged 35th.

It has been noted in some LIV communications that reserve players are exempt from relegation, so there's really nothing to get worked up about here. The Fireballs have brought a very young kid back to the team who showed glimpses of his potential in 2025 - at the mere age of 22. If he can develop his potential further then he'll become a very solid world class golfer.
 
Mel Smooth said:
Maybe one of Tom's connections within LIV is a player or caddy that has been negatively affected by relegation this year and he's been getting it in the ear about it.. Masaveu was a reserve player at the end of 2025, but in the 7 events he played as part of the fireballs, he comfortably averaged a top 30 position, Poulter - the last man to make the cut for the drop zone averaged 35th.

It has been noted in some LIV communications that reserve players are exempt from relegation, so there's really nothing to get worked up about here. The Fireballs have brought a very young kid back to the team who showed glimpses of his potential in 2025 - at the mere age of 22. If he can develop his potential further then he'll become a very solid world class golfer.
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LOL! In four years, the only world-class golfers that LIV has produced were Gooch and Niemann. Young guys with potential will never live up to it in that environment. It may change when they play 72 holes, though.
 
Fore Right said:
Golf is growing according to Chat GPT 2024 results

📈 Global Participation Growth​


  • A 2024 Global Participation Report from The R&A showed that 108 million people (adults and juniors) now play golf in R&A-affiliated markets around the world, up nearly 3 million from 2023. The
  • The number of adult participants increased from 62.3 million to 64.1 million, and junior participation was measured at 43.9 million for the first time — reflecting broader engagement beyond traditional 9- and 18-hole golf.
  • On-course participation (9/18 hole) also rose modestly, from 42.7 million in 2023 to 43.3 million in 2024.
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Can this be right, or am I reading it incorrectly?

43.3m play golf on a 9 or 18 hole course.....but 108m play golf. Surely TopGolf, driving ranges, Sims etc cannot account for 66m people saying they "play golf"?
 
SteveJay said:
Can this be right, or am I reading it incorrectly?

43.3m play golf on a 9 or 18 hole course.....but 108m play golf. Surely TopGolf, driving ranges, Sims etc cannot account for 66m people saying they "play golf"?
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There's plenty of places that number could come from.
I play with my kids and their other halves a few times every year on our local pitchnputt. So that would be a 5-1 ratio of "real" to "unreal" (in every sense...).
When I've been in Spain (Madrid, not the coastal courses), lots of the golf centres have short courses where the participants look unlikely to go out into anything bigger. I think this is pretty common on the continent.
Japan/Korea have a golf culture which has access to driving ranges, but very expensive golf courses.
I think that the UK golf culture/infrastructure/affordability is the exception rather than the rule.
 
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