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Lord Tyrion said:
Do you think Rory needs the money now? Was he thinking about the pay cheque this weekend? Money is irrelevant to these top guys, they already have more than they can spend.

Form can come and go and those very high standards are hard to maintain.

It's clear that you don't like LIV but it doesn't mean that LIV is the fault of Rahm's form. He is just going through a spell right now.
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You are missing my point. While I do dislike LIV and what it has done for golf my point is if you are being paid each week with no jeopardy of a missed cut how sharp are these guys and how much of a drive is there. Most, Rahm BdC nad others will have exemptions into most majors. I just wonder if this dip is as a coincidence of LIV or LIV is a contributory factor. That was my point. Not sure what Rory and money had to do with the conversation as he is never going to LIV
 
HomerJSimpson said:
You are missing my point. While I do dislike LIV and what it has done for golf my point is if you are being paid each week with no jeopardy of a missed cut how sharp are these guys and how much of a drive is there. Most, Rahm BdC nad others will have exemptions into most majors. I just wonder if this dip is as a coincidence of LIV or LIV is a contributory factor. That was my point. Not sure what Rory and money had to do with the conversation as he is never going to LIV
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The point is that Rory doesn't need the money but did he look disinterested yesterday? None of those big guys, on both tours, need the money, missed cuts are not going to hurt them. They want the win, the trophy etc. Not everything about LIV needs to be a negative
 
Rahm has just ended a run of 20 sub par rounds in succession on LIV - there’s no discussion to be had about whether his abilities have diminished since he joined LIV.
Whether he is struggling to get focussed and prepared for the Majors is where any questions need to be asked.
 
TheDiablo said:
18 months ago, and for the preceding 3 years, Rahm was clearly a Top 2 player, battling with Scottie and a long way clear of anyone else.

Fast forward to today, and nobody really knows how he stacks up. I’d probably have him between 6 and 10, arguably behind 2 others on Liv.

He’s broken 70 twice in 4 majors, ironically in the 4th round (!!) when midfield with no pressure on whatsoever. The only 4th round of any consequence he has played against a world field he completely choked.

What happened 18 months ago? He joined Liv for gazillions after slamming it for years. No judgement on that, everyone has a price.

I think the above warrants a genuine conversation, and as much as he won’t like it, will only amplify as time goes on, especially with the narrative switching away from Rory.

He may very well win the PGA next month - he is easily good enough.
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A Very Valid Conversation Diablo

There’s a lot of discussion right now about Jon Rahm and his performances in the majors—but let’s take a step back and look at the full picture.

According to Data Golf’s world rankings, which are based on actual performance metrics (strokes gained against the strength of field and course difficulty over the past two years), Rahm still ranks 4th in the world—behind only Scottie Scheffler, Rory McIlroy, and Collin Morikawa. That’s not opinion, that’s performance-based data which shows he is playing world class golf week in week out.

While he hasn’t contended in recent majors, his form on LIV Golf is strong, and the strokes gained numbers back it up.
The reality is: he’s still one of the most consistent and talented ball-strikers in the game.

What’s likely happening is more psychological than technical.
Rahm is acutely aware of the media narrative around LIV players and majors, and it’s fair to suggest he may be pressing too hard to silence that noise.
That kind of pressure can disrupt even the best players, look at Rory at The Masters for the last 11 years.

In my opinion Jon Rahm is too talented not to figure it out.
He’s still in his prime, still performing at an elite level, and it’s only a matter of time before he breaks through again on the major stage.

And we need him for the Ryder Cup at Bethpage.
 
Fore Right said:
A Very Valid Conversation Diablo

There’s a lot of discussion right now about Jon Rahm and his performances in the majors—but let’s take a step back and look at the full picture.

According to Data Golf’s world rankings, which are based on actual performance metrics (strokes gained against the strength of field and course difficulty over the past two years), Rahm still ranks 4th in the world—behind only Scottie Scheffler, Rory McIlroy, and Collin Morikawa. That’s not opinion, that’s performance-based data which shows he is playing world class golf week in week out.

While he hasn’t contended in recent majors, his form on LIV Golf is strong, and the strokes gained numbers back it up.
The reality is: he’s still one of the most consistent and talented ball-strikers in the game.

What’s likely happening is more psychological than technical.
Rahm is acutely aware of the media narrative around LIV players and majors, and it’s fair to suggest he may be pressing too hard to silence that noise.
That kind of pressure can disrupt even the best players, look at Rory at The Masters for the last 11 years.

In my opinion Jon Rahm is too talented not to figure it out.
He’s still in his prime, still performing at an elite level, and it’s only a matter of time before he breaks through again on the major stage.

And we need him for the Ryder Cup at Bethpage.
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The next three majors will be very big for Rahm in terms of the Ryder Cup

But he did ok in The Open with a Top Ten and finished well this week

I can see him hopefully challenging at either Oakmont or Quail Hollow - both suit his game
 
Arthur Wedge said:
The next three majors will be very big for Rahm in terms of the Ryder Cup

But he did ok in The Open with a Top Ten and finished well this week

I can see him hopefully challenging at either Oakmont or Quail Hollow - both suit his game
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The majors come thick and fast don't they

By the way Rahm finished T14 at The Masters that's hardly a disaster.

I agree though (were agreeing a lot more 😁) He needs to contend in the next few to silence the noise.
 
Fore Right said:
The majors come thick and fast don't they

By the way Rahm finished T14 at The Masters that's hardly a disaster.

I agree though (we’re agreeing a lot more 😁) He needs to contend in the next few to silence the noise.
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I don’t like them all being done by July - it’s made the major season poorer by moving it to May - enjoyed it when it was in August - “glorys last chance”
 
Fore Right said:
A Very Valid Conversation Diablo

There’s a lot of discussion right now about Jon Rahm and his performances in the majors—but let’s take a step back and look at the full picture.

According to Data Golf’s world rankings, which are based on actual performance metrics (strokes gained against the strength of field and course difficulty over the past two years), Rahm still ranks 4th in the world—behind only Scottie Scheffler, Rory McIlroy, and Collin Morikawa. That’s not opinion, that’s performance-based data which shows he is playing world class golf week in week out.

While he hasn’t contended in recent majors, his form on LIV Golf is strong, and the strokes gained numbers back it up.
The reality is: he’s still one of the most consistent and talented ball-strikers in the game.

What’s likely happening is more psychological than technical.
Rahm is acutely aware of the media narrative around LIV players and majors, and it’s fair to suggest he may be pressing too hard to silence that noise.
That kind of pressure can disrupt even the best players, look at Rory at The Masters for the last 11 years.

In my opinion Jon Rahm is too talented not to figure it out.
He’s still in his prime, still performing at an elite level, and it’s only a matter of time before he breaks through again on the major stage.

And we need him for the Ryder Cup at Bethpage.
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More Chat-gpt. He’s not playing golf week in week out though is he. And he’s playing against a very limited field on LiV, so it’s impossible to compare how well he’s actually playing apart from in the majors. Where he hasn’t done great by his own high standards since is sold his soul.
 
Fore Right said:
Although Liv would have been obviously wanting Bryson to win going into the last round, I dont think they will be too disappointed with their Masters showing.

Half of their 12 players made the cut and 5 finished in the top 15.
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I thought the same thing with TGL.

Over 70% of their players made the cut, and two of them came in the Top 2 :D
 
To go the other extreme, if Rahm was to somehow miss the cut at next 3 majors & not win on LIV, then Donald should be considering his options.
But that hasn't happened yet...
 
I think given Rahm plays mainly in the US there will be a way to give him a RC pick if he doesn't do enough by playing. You need your best players and I am sure the European team are aware of him being a must for the RC
 
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