What ? Thats a pretty fair analysis and quite the consensus view in the wider world and I think with most poster here who have now come around to the view that LIV hasnt succeeded. And is just waiting now, or going through the motions as a ghost tour, until the PIF and PGAT come down on whether there is something worth saving or retooling in it.The only thing exuding here is excrement from Dunesman Towers
Is there an alternative plausible view ?