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You're the one that said you have one fault in your swing, not me. I just highlighted the fact that when you resolve that you will no doubt findmore issues. Even tour players are constantly working on their swings but the difference is they have the time and the swing knowledge to put things right.
All I'm saying is don't get bogged down by 'paralysis by analysis'. We are weekend fun players, enjoy playing the game.
Simple as that.
tsped83
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I'm glad I'm not alone in this. Way too much thinking and dissection going on recently on this forum. I read the 'Ask the Experts' thread from time to time and the questions on there are from another planet! "What should I be doing with my arms/legs/shoulders at x point in my swing". Ouch. The swing lasts about a second, no way can you be worrying about different body parts in such a short space of time.
1. Walk to ball
2. Hit ball
3. Repeat 1 & 2.
4. Repeat 1 & 2 several times.
5. Swear at oneself.
6. Put ball in hole.
1. Walk to ball
2. Hit ball
3. Repeat 1 & 2.
4. Repeat 1 & 2 several times.
5. Swear at oneself.
6. Put ball in hole.
kid2
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I have one thing going on with my swing at the moment thats causing 3 problems..... Once i fix this then the problems should in theory go away.....
One thing!
3 problems!
Those problems should go away......
I can understand you Paralysis by Analysis but you still have to understand a fault to fix it......
Ill give you me as an eg.
I worked hard to get rid of an out to in swingpath that had me spraying the ball everywhere.... I got so frustrated that i went and took 8 lessons last winter.... Worked on this and went through 10 weeks of shanking the ball.....
Since the Plane has settled i now have a slight early extension problem thats causing me to push shots and hook them as well as throwing in an odd shank every now and then for good measure..... I know now why this is happening and i know what to work on......
If i were to use your theory of keep it simple then i would no doubt still have those same faults next season and i would get so frustrated that id probably accept where iv got and be miserable at chopping the ball round the course playing army golf off the handicap that i have an never get any better..........
kid2
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Simple when you play off 2 and probably have repeatable impact and swing conditions Rob.....:thup:
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This is my point, do you genuinely understand what an early extension is, what causes it, how to correct it, what other faults correcting it could introduce? Do you need to know? Do you think putting in hundreds of hours to correct the problem then a few more hundred hours correcting the problems that you introduced by correcting the previous problems will bring you more enjoyment from the game? If you think it will then crack on mate :thup:
Robobum
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That's the whole point mate - I'm off 2 by keeping it simple. I have no idea (and never have had) about planes and paths except that the latter leads to the former immediately prior to a nice holiday somewhere
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Again, you hit the nail on the head kid2. The secret is a repeatable swing, not a technically perfect, overanalysed one.
Jim Furyk :thup:
JustOne
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kid2
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I could go on and explain it exactly for you Pal... But it wouldnt be much use... I know whats causing it because iv read up about it.... I also am living proof of what it causes..... I also know how im going to go about fixing it...
The reason i do all this is to have a least a more consistent swing than i have now and to keep the ball in play.... Thats the whole point of Golf... Keep the ball out of trouble and get it into the hole in the least amount of shots......
If you want to play to and maintain a low handicap then there is no way on earth that you will do that with a swing that isnt performing to keep a ball in play.
kid2
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That's the whole point mate - I'm off 2 by keeping it simple. I have no idea (and never have had) about planes and paths except that the latter leads to the former immediately prior to a nice holiday somewhere
Just out of interest Rob....
What shape of ball flight do you have and do you hit it 99% of the time
kid2
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Im only going to use one word for that
Impact......
You watch any good golfer and nearly all of them have similar impact conditions....
Thats why i work on my swing... So that Impact is repeatable...... Not Technically perfect.....
Robobum
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Why aren't you off scratch?
Because since I started playing golf I have entered comps and put in cards. A computer (which has replaced a man) adds the scores up with a calculator (which replaced an abacus) and they decided to allow me 2 extra shots than another man decides it should take to complete his course.
I thought that was basic stuff, you want to get your head round it if you're going to be a PGA pro
Robobum
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For what it's worth, I do have a low handicap and I also have a better understanding of the golf swing than most people on here. I've read most of the threads in the Ask the Experts section and to be honest, most of them are complete nonsense. The reason behind this thread is that a lot of people on here have no idea of what half that stuff relates to and the old saying 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing' springs to mind. If people want to start worrying about what effect the flex in the left knee has on the hands in relation to a one plane swing versus a two plane swing then that is up to them but one thing I do know.....it won't make their golf any more enjoyable.
When I go to the range to work on my game I work on very simple things, not massively over complicated confidence destroying thoughts.
Good luck in your quest to get your handicap down :thup:
Slime
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kid2
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I like to call it a "girly fade"
Nope, that's a mighty tall target. I'd say 80% or so.
Would the other 20 be Pulls then?
JustOne
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how do you fix a pull?
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Foxholer
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I think all these treads simply demonstrate the 'different strokes for different folks' concept.
I prefer to know the 'why' about most things and apply the same to the Golf Swing. Probably not quite so obsessively as Kid seems to be (he's heading down, I'm more likely heading upwards), but certainly more than Robobum (probably a lot more going wrong)!
Same happens with even Tour players and their equipment. Some are obsessive about it (I've seen an order for irons to be at 7.1 and Swing Weight 3.8 by a guy who could tell if they weren't) and others very laid-back (when asked what shaft he wanted in a ne head, one stated 'it as blue-ish' - and it wasn't a Grafalloy!).
I believe the needs balance should be discussed and agreed before any coaching starts.
I prefer to know the 'why' about most things and apply the same to the Golf Swing. Probably not quite so obsessively as Kid seems to be (he's heading down, I'm more likely heading upwards), but certainly more than Robobum (probably a lot more going wrong)!
Same happens with even Tour players and their equipment. Some are obsessive about it (I've seen an order for irons to be at 7.1 and Swing Weight 3.8 by a guy who could tell if they weren't) and others very laid-back (when asked what shaft he wanted in a ne head, one stated 'it as blue-ish' - and it wasn't a Grafalloy!).
I believe the needs balance should be discussed and agreed before any coaching starts.
