Keep it simple guys

[Deleted Member 1156]

I have noticed on here recently a lot of swing advice that is ridiculously overcomplcated and complex and quite frankly, way beyond the level that most of us play golf to. Just remember that we are not tour pros or even scratch golfers but weekend fun players. Don't get all bogged down with overly technical advice, it won't improve your game because 1) we don't have the time to dedicate to practice the way a pro does and 2) we don't have the ability to understand the technical aspects.


Keep it simple, you will enjoy your golf more. That is all.

 

[User20205]

I have noticed on here recently a lot of swing advice that is ridiculously overcomplcated and complex and quite frankly, way beyond the level that most of us play golf to. Just remember that we are not tour pros or even scratch golfers but weekend fun players. Don't get all bogged down with overly technical advice, it won't improve your game because 1) we don't have the time to dedicate to practice the way a pro does and 2) we don't have the ability to understand the technical aspects.


Keep it simple, you will enjoy your golf more. That is all.

Solid advice. You wanna spend 12 hrs with me down at iford??

 

[Rooter]

Solid advice. You wanna spend 12 hrs with me down at iford??

Is there a pub there?

 

[Hendo007]

I have noticed on here recently a lot of swing advice that is ridiculously overcomplcated and complex and quite frankly, way beyond the level that most of us play golf to. Just remember that we are not tour pros or even scratch golfers but weekend fun players. Don't get all bogged down with overly technical advice, it won't improve your game because 1) we don't have the time to dedicate to practice the way a pro does and 2) we don't have the ability to understand the technical aspects.


Keep it simple, you will enjoy your golf more. That is all.

I think you can only really speak for yourself with that statement. Everyone is different. You may be a weekend fun player but whats to say someone else is not ? Granted I play at the weekends and for fun but I would like to be the best that I can be.

Again you can only speak for yourself at not having the ability to understand the technical aspects. There are many people that do understand, they might not be able to put it into practice but they may very well understand.

In fact In order to improve I do need to know the technical aspects of everything so I for one would like to know them. And I will understand them. I may not be able to perform them granted but I'll give it a damn good try.

 

[User20205]

Is there a pub there?

Yes there is:thup:

20 balls, 10 pints??

 

[BRISTOL86]

I must say - as someone who has struggled to make a repeatable consistent strike since taking up the sport - I think I got far too bogged down in the technicals and the mechanics of the swing at the beginning. Since seeing a pro for lessons, the things that have helped me improve the most have been very simple. Such as keeping my left arm straight, rotating the hips etc.

 

[tsped83]

I have noticed on here recently a lot of swing advice that is ridiculously overcomplcated and complex and quite frankly, way beyond the level that most of us play golf to. Just remember that we are not tour pros or even scratch golfers but weekend fun players. Don't get all bogged down with overly technical advice, it won't improve your game because 1) we don't have the time to dedicate to practice the way a pro does and 2) we don't have the ability to understand the technical aspects.


Keep it simple, you will enjoy your golf more. That is all.

The voice of reason. Amen brother.

My only conscious swing thought is to swing shorter. That's it. Worrying about heads, shoulders, knees and toes just makes it so complicated. For me that is.

 

[Rooter]

Yes there is:thup:

20 balls, 10 pints??

I'm in nick!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I'm in nick!

Me too, I'm rapidly thinking about hitting the bottle

 

[SocketRocket]

Has anyone here heard of the 3 Skills Golf learning method. The system focuses on three skills needed to strike the ball well and does not explain how to move your body. I found it to be a breath of fresh air in how to simplify the learning process.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Has anyone here heard of the 3 Skills Golf learning method. The system focuses on three skills needed to strike the ball well and does not explain how to move your body. I found it to be a breath of fresh air in how to simplify the learning process.

No Brian....a web link please??

 

[GreiginFife]

Has anyone here heard of the 3 Skills Golf learning method. The system focuses on three skills needed to strike the ball well and does not explain how to move your body. I found it to be a breath of fresh air in how to simplify the learning process.

No, but it sounds like a blinder if its that simple and something of great use. Off to google it and spend my evening reading up.
I personslly never understand how knowing mechanical technicalities help. Especially when one single swing thought can obliterate your game, knowingly introducing more is madness IMO.
But I will check this out as looking for a simple few bits to work on this winter.

 

[kid2]

I have noticed on here recently a lot of swing advice that is ridiculously overcomplcated and complex and quite frankly, way beyond the level that most of us play golf to. Just remember that we are not tour pros or even scratch golfers but weekend fun players. Don't get all bogged down with overly technical advice, it won't improve your game because 1) we don't have the time to dedicate to practice the way a pro does and 2) we don't have the ability to understand the technical aspects.
Keep it simple, you will enjoy your golf more. That is all.

I cant say i agree with the above.... And im definitely one that is fairly analytical about my swing ..... There is no point on making a statement like that to someone that wants to get as low as they can and is willing to put in the work.....
Ok if you just want to go out for a round at the weekend with your mates and have a knockabout and a bit of banther then work away.....
But you have to understand your faults to be able to fix them.....
I have one thing going on with my swing at the moment thats causing 3 problems..... Once i fix this then the problems should in theory go away.....

I constantly hear from my playing partners to just get up and hit the ball.... But their the ones that are still struggling between high teen handicaps and not getting better....
Iv dropped 11 strokes in 4 yrs by looking at my swing and understanding whats happening....
And i have the intention of working through the winter and loosing at least another 2 if not 3 shots next year....

How can you say keep it simple you will enjoy golf more to someone that has taken up the game and swings massively outside in, who has heaps of movement in his swing, and who wants to get better......But hits a 40 yard slice with their driver and cant understand why?
That statement just makes no sense to someone that wants to improve......

 

[Odvan]

Agree with the OP as well as with those disagreeing!


I swing my club and hit the ball, most of the times well, sometimes not so. Sometimes it goes straight, most of times it doesn't . Reading some of the stuff on here doesn't and wont make any difference, certainly habitually, which is what we'd be looking for with regards improvements for lots of us. Spending some cash with a pro, I guess would, certainly for the majority and definitely speaking for myself.

I don't understand half (oh ok, most) of the terminology that lots of the more experienced players use here to start off with so guess getting only 4 replies when I uploaded my swing vid for comments was a blessing in disguise .

But most of the info that is posted on here will make sense to those asking and if they are asking then they clearly want to get "bogged down" with it and good luck to em I say.

But for me, ya slide, turn, casting, elbow diameter, passive arm, line of compression, soft stepping and tee fitting (of course) can lick my face!

 

[SocketRocket]

A PGA Pro called Joe Hagan at Hersham Golf Club developed '3 Skills' and published a book called 'Nail It' . The book teaches 3 basic skills needed to make great ball contact.

1) Strike the ball at the correct angle for the club you are using.
2) Strike the ball at the widest point of the swing arc.
3) Move the clubface from an open to closed orientation through impact.

He uses drills and imagery to practice and learn the skills. For skill 1) he gets the student to imagine there is a nail tacked into the ball at different angles for differing clubs and you have to hit the nail through the ball such that you get the correct ball ground contact with irons and fairways and maximum compression with the driver. It is all explained in easy to follow pictures and explanations.

His website does not have much on it but the book 'Nail it' is low price and well worth a read, if you google 3 skills and 'nail it' you will find various references. I can go into more detail if required.

http://www.3skillsgolf.com/

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I cant say i agree with the above.... And im definitely one that is fairly analytical about my swing ..... There is no point on making a statement like that to someone that wants to get as low as they can and is willing to put in the work.....
Ok if you just want to go out for a round at the weekend with your mates and have a knockabout and a bit of banther then work away.....
But you have to understand your faults to be able to fix them.....
I have one thing going on with my swing at the moment thats causing 3 problems..... Once i fix this then the problems should in theory go away.....

I constantly hear from my playing partners to just get up and hit the ball.... But their the ones that are still struggling between high teen handicaps and not getting better....
Iv dropped 11 strokes in 4 yrs by looking at my swing and understanding whats happening....
And i have the intention of working through the winter and loosing at least another 2 if not 3 shots next year....

How can you say keep it simple you will enjoy golf more to someone that has taken up the game and swings massively outside in, who has heaps of movement in his swing, and who wants to get better......But hits a 40 yard slice with their driver and cant understand why?
That statement just makes no sense to someone that wants to improve......

I understand what you are saying but your post proves I'm right in what I'm saying. So your swing is perfect apart from one fault? Fix that and your swing is ready for the tour?

More likely it will then highlight another fault which you will endeavour to fix.......and the cycle continues. It's your choice if you have the time to devote to your swing changes and wish to endlessly tinker, analyse and try to correct faults. But a much simpler fix is course management. If you fade the ball, aim left. If you draw the ball, aim right. That will bring your handicap down :thup:

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

http://www.3skillsgolf.com/

Cheers Brian :thup:

 

[Robobum]

......... If you fade the ball, aim left. If you draw the ball, aim right. That will bring your handicap down :thup:

Eh?

Nope, too much info for me

 

[kid2]

I understand what you are saying but your post proves I'm right in what I'm saying. So your swing is perfect apart from one fault? Fix that and your swing is ready for the tour?

More likely it will then highlight another fault which you will endeavour to fix.......and the cycle continues. It's your choice if you have the time to devote to your swing changes and wish to endlessly tinker, analyse and try to correct faults. But a much simpler fix is course management. If you fade the ball, aim left. If you draw the ball, aim right. That will bring your handicap down :thup:

Firstly i dont think anywhere in my post did i mention i was ready for the tour.....
I have a goal in my head for my personal use... Thats to get as low as i can......
Secondly i didnt say i have a perfect swing..... I dont think there is such a thing.... You only have to look at any swing on tour to see they are all different.....

The above that iv highlighted.... Aim left if you fade and aim right if you draw...... What would you then say to a player that aims left but starts pulling the ball and to the player that aims right but starts pushing the ball and hooking it?

Its not as simple a game as your making it out to be.....
Things cant be fixed unless you understand whats wrong...

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Eh?

Nope, too much info for me

You don't understand this because you hit it straight you knob :ears: