Junior entering an Adult Comp - which tees?

[Lord Tyrion]

Are there not junior h/c,going up to something like 54 and then adult h/c. A junior h/c is off forward, junior, tees, blue at my old club. Juniors can also get an adult h/c off the adult white tees.

Juniors with adult h/c should be able to play in any comp they like. Those still off the forward tees should stick to junior comps until they are ready to progress on. That is why the forward tees exist. It's the equivalent of junior cricket, football, rugby etc. Step up when ready, don't intimidate kids as it may scar them.

The above is not fact, I don't think. It is just my own experience of my son going through the junior ranks and it made sense to me.

 

[rulefan]

There is now what is called a CONGU Club Handicap. This was extended from the Junior Handicap system to include any and all ages. It extends from 29 to 54.

CONGU® Handicap
A CONGU® Handicap is a handicap allotted and adjusted by the Home Club of a Member in
accordance with the requirements of the UHS. A CONGU® Handicap must only be allotted to
a Member of an Affiliated Club. Any other handicap is not a CONGU ® Handicap.
The upper limits are 28.0 for men and 36.0 for women.

CONGU® Club Handicap
A CONGU® Club Handicap is a handicap allotted and adjusted by the Home Club of a
Member in accordance with the requirements of Appendix J of the UHS. A CONGU® Club
Handicap must only be allotted to a Member of an Affiliated Club. Any other club handicap is
not a CONGU® Club Handicap. It is only allotted above the upper limits of 28.0 [36.0] and has
an upper limit of 54.0.

INITIAL ALLOTMENT
A player who returns cards that do not justify an Exact Handicap of 28.0 [36.0]
or lower may be given a CONGU® Club Handicap of between 29.0 [37.0] and
54.0. In accordance with, and subject to, the provisions of Appendix J and, if
appropriate, Appendix K. for a CONGU® Disability Golf Handicap.


A club committee has options which include the following:
 To allot the calculated handicap as a Club Handicap (which would not bear the ‘c’ annotation)
 To allot the maximum CONGU® Handicap eligible for competition ‘c’ status (28.0[36])
The former option is preferred as it provides a more realistic handicap to the inexperienced player
and allows progress in the game to be monitored thus increasing the enjoyment and satisfaction
associated with progressive improvement in the playing of the game. If this option is chosen the club
committee has two further options:
ï‚· To allow and encourage players with Club Handicaps to participate in club competitions together
with those with a CONGU® Handicap.
ï‚· To run separate competitions or separate classes / divisions within club competitions for those
players with a Club Handicap.
Clubs are encouraged to recognise and embrace the responsibility they have to attract, encourage
and enthuse those new to the game as well as satisfying the needs of those already in club
membership.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Here is a question

How do people's clubs progress juniors from their junior Handicap into Congu C Handicap ? Do they need to show they have the ability over the course full 18 holes from the tee of the day that they can gain a minimum of 18 HC

 

[Old Skier]

Here is a question

How do people's clubs progress juniors from their junior Handicap into Congu C Handicap ? Do they need to show they have the ability over the course full 18 holes from the tee of the day that they can gain a minimum of 18 HC

Not sure the 18 isn't a miss print we go for 28

 

[Colin L]

Here is a question

How do people's clubs progress juniors from their junior Handicap into Congu C Handicap ? Do they need to show they have the ability over the course full 18 holes from the tee of the day that they can gain a minimum of 18 HC

When anyone - junior or otherwise- holding a CONGU Club handicap reduces their handicap to 28 (male)/36 (female) or lower, it gains competition status.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

When anyone - junior or otherwise- holding a CONGU Club handicap reduces their handicap to 28 (male)/36 (female) or lower, it gains competition status.

I know that - that's not what I asked

How do fellow HC sec transition the juniors into C status Congu HC

 

[Colin L]

I know that - that's not what I asked

How do fellow HC sec transition the juniors into C status Congu HC

And that's what I answered. They "transition" automatically from CONGU Club Handicap to CONGU Competition Handicap when they come down to 28[36].

I must be missing something in your question.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I remember as a junior back in the midst of time, we had to be 14 and have a handicap of 18 or below to be allowed to play in mens competitions. I would like to thing golf has become more inclusive but I think in the OP instance his age and handicap would be difficult for the junior to play well enough off white tees and I would suggest pace of play would be an issue, having to put extra balls into play (assuming long carries, errant shots) and that the course is simply to long and difficult for this stage of the youngsters golfing career. Once he matures by a few years and the handicap comes down, then all for it

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And that's what I answered.

Ok I'll ask again - Right now the junior HCs are mainly looked after manually by junior Organisers - a lot of junior comps are 9 hole comps so I was asking when a junior is getting close to becoming eligible to 28 HC is the move over confirmed by using a 18 hole scorecard before the Junior is given an 28 ( or maybe lower ) HC

 

[Colin L]

Ok I'll ask again - Right now the junior HCs are mainly looked after manually by junior Organisers - a lot of junior comps are 9 hole comps so I was asking when a junior is getting close to becoming eligible to 28 HC is the move over confirmed by using a 18 hole scorecard before the Junior is given an 28 ( or maybe lower ) HC

So how are your juniors' handicaps allotted in the first place? They can gain and maintain a CONGU Club Handicap with 9 hole scores and I would suggest should be doing so long before they are coming close to 28/36.

 

[rulefan]

Ok I'll ask again - Right now the junior HCs are mainly looked after manually by junior Organisers - a lot of junior comps are 9 hole comps so I was asking when a junior is getting close to becoming eligible to 28 HC is the move over confirmed by using a 18 hole scorecard before the Junior is given an 28 ( or maybe lower ) HC

The facility to manage Junior handicaps using the standard software predated the CONGU Club Handicap by many years. The junior organiser should have been using it. The transition to a full CONGU handicap is managed by the system.

When a player with a CONGU® Club Handicap reduces to Category 4 [5] that player’s
handicap shall be marked as a ‘Competition Handicap’ providing that the player has met
the minimum requirement in Clause 25.1 in either the current or previous calendar years. If
a player does not meet this requirement at the time of reduction to the lower Handicap
Category the handicap shall remain unmarked until such time as sufficient Qualifying
Scores are returned in a calendar year and the player’s Exact Handicap remains within
Categories 1 to 4 [5].

Any player wanting a handicap must submit the standard 3 cards. That is the only ways of getting a CONGU handicap or a CONGU Club Handicap.
A junior (or anyone else) cannot be simply allocated a handicap based on 'general play'. See INITIAL ALLOTMENT in my post above.

 

[Old Skier]

Ok I'll ask again - Right now the junior HCs are mainly looked after manually by junior Organisers - a lot of junior comps are 9 hole comps so I was asking when a junior is getting close to becoming eligible to 28 HC is the move over confirmed by using a 18 hole scorecard before the Junior is given an 28 ( or maybe lower ) HC

Ours are not looked after by the junior organisers alone, they work with the handicap sec/committee when it comes to handicaps. It's the only way to have a consistent system.