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When I first saw him play, before he got his tour card and was using invites you could see he would go on to do really well. He's not a golfer I would make an effort to follow live.
Jordan Spieth - Is he a choker?
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When I first saw him play, before he got his tour card and was using invites you could see he would go on to do really well. He's not a golfer I would make an effort to follow live.
Capella
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He is a great golfer for sure and from the athletic perspective he is doing absolutely the right thing, so I would not expect him to change, but I agree that he is definitely lacking in entertainment value 
The same is true for some of the other great players as well, though. Jason Day isn't exactly action figure material either (even though I really like him and hope he will win another major this year) and even Stenson normally has me nod off as soon as he is on the green.
The same is true for some of the other great players as well, though. Jason Day isn't exactly action figure material either (even though I really like him and hope he will win another major this year) and even Stenson normally has me nod off as soon as he is on the green.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
WRT the title of the thread, every time hes led a tournament on the back 9 on Sunday since Augusta hes won it, pretty impressive response as is his total record to date. Will rightfully be favourite when the masters gets here in a couple of months
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Without sounding awkward, can you explain what you mean by lacking in entertainment value and who would be an example of good entertainment value on a golf course.He is a great golfer for sure and from the athletic perspective he is doing absolutely the right thing, so I would not expect him to change, but I agree that he is definitely lacking in entertainment value
Marshy77
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Totally agree. I don't see the difference between his personality and say top players like DJ, Stenson, Rory, Rose, Day.
People on here come on for advice to find a swing that works on every shot - if that means robotic then fair play to one of the best young players around. Maybe if he wore multi coloured trousers, posted more tweets or pictures of his garage full of expensive cars he be classed as having a 'personality' like other golfers that very rarely win anything?
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Put the rod down.
The same is true of many other sther sports. I like snooker too, but dont like watching the current world champion
Or shaun Murphy
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It's a genuine question, I get the voice or personality off the course, but nobody has explained what they want ON the course, all of them walk up and hit the ball, how can one be entertaining and one not?
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Another win for Spieth and 9 wins on tour, fantastic achievement.
Go back to the opening post though, what I said at the end is he appears to have an inability to close out when it's tight, yesterday it wasn't.
I believe he'll go on to win many more events easily, I'd like to see him close a tight one out down the stretch though as im still undecided if he's a choker or not when it's tight but I have a suspicion that he really doesnt like the pressure and lets it get to him.
Go back to the opening post though, what I said at the end is he appears to have an inability to close out when it's tight, yesterday it wasn't.
I believe he'll go on to win many more events easily, I'd like to see him close a tight one out down the stretch though as im still undecided if he's a choker or not when it's tight but I have a suspicion that he really doesnt like the pressure and lets it get to him.
JohnnyDee
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Sorry to bend the thread last night as I was sure there was one about JS's demeanour etc. but a search found nowt.
I can't quite put my finger on what it is irks me (and others) about watching him, but whatever it is...it just does.
He's undoubtedly a colossal talent but it's the "swashbuckling do or die" thing for me that's missing. Trevino, Jack, Arnie, Bubba, Phil, Tiger, Rory, Sergio and others have it in spades.
Snooker used to be my game and Alex Higgins & Jimmy White had the same wreckless but brilliant gene. Others like Reardon and Taylor had big personalities and drew the crowds.
Steve Davis was a genius but (on the table) he was cold, methodical and calculating. Made him a mint and King of the table for a long time. But I hated watching him.
Turns out he's a really top bloke too - and best of all - a big Prog Rock fan 👍😀
I can't quite put my finger on what it is irks me (and others) about watching him, but whatever it is...it just does.
He's undoubtedly a colossal talent but it's the "swashbuckling do or die" thing for me that's missing. Trevino, Jack, Arnie, Bubba, Phil, Tiger, Rory, Sergio and others have it in spades.
Snooker used to be my game and Alex Higgins & Jimmy White had the same wreckless but brilliant gene. Others like Reardon and Taylor had big personalities and drew the crowds.
Steve Davis was a genius but (on the table) he was cold, methodical and calculating. Made him a mint and King of the table for a long time. But I hated watching him.
Turns out he's a really top bloke too - and best of all - a big Prog Rock fan 👍😀
HomerJSimpson
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He's undoubtedly one of the best golfers out there and when he's on the course he's in work mode. Why would he be anything other than a consummate professional closing the event out. I don't know about his demeanour or personality and to be honest he's no different to a whole array of other pros
hovis
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you get an instinctive feeling about people and js just doesn't capture me. i have a dislike to him and i dont know why. he just doesn't draw me in like sergio, rory, bubba and scott. however golfers that i dont like such as Westwood, willet and poulter. i know clearly why i dont like them
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So it's more about him than his ability?, thanks for that, I get it,
hovis
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yeh, nothing to do with his ability. he plays good golf. just dull as dishwater
snell
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I'm on the flips side I don't find him dull at all.
I love the little conversations between him and caddy, also find it funny when he shouts at his ball....but equally I can see why some would find it annoying.
I love the little conversations between him and caddy, also find it funny when he shouts at his ball....but equally I can see why some would find it annoying.
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HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
When are people gonna stop expecting top sportsmen to be charismatic and exciting? They are golfers and their one goal is to win golf tournaments. They aren't there to be liked or even particularly entertaining, they are there to win. They are also just people and not everyone can be great in front of the camera. Every now and then you get a Seve, but those guys are few and far between, for everyone else, they have to play within their abilities to try to win.
Spieth may not be Seve but what he does he does very well, and he wins.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Ditto, I could watch him all day long. He's chicken wing tastic.
Parsaregood
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Well said and may I add that I think Jordan spieth will be one of the all time greats on a par with Mickelson only with more majors, the guy is only 23 with 2 already to his name, just because some people find him boring who cares, I certainly don't think he will. He is the ultimate professional very well spoken and knows how to go about things on and off the course, very level head for such a young guy which is very rare and one of the reasons he will be an all time great. As for the name of the thread, 23 years old with 2 majors and 9 tour wins? Yeah he's a real bottler
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The comparison between Spieth and Stephen Hendry is a good one
Both are brilliant at their respective sports - one of the best around during their time. Both are clinical and single minded in their focus for winning. Both are very much marmite but expect all golf fans would recognise their talent
For me Sports is all about watching highly skilled players entertain with both their ability and character- the problem is now in a lot of sports there is so much riding on it , so much money can be won and for some it's their careers , their home life so it's always going to be about crossing the line to get the pay cheque - they don't really care about entertaining people.
I personally have started to stop watching the US golf - it's soooooooo slloooowww and mind numbingly boring - watching Spieth and Snedeker take minutes over each shot and analyse it to death just made me what to switch it off and I did - how many others will do that ? Will the way the players are start to affect viewing figures etc. Golf in the main on the telly especially in the US for me is dull as dishwater bar the odd comp or when they have someone like Lowry or Beef who also just wants to have fun out there.
Golf needs more Beef than Spieth
As for choking - I agree with whoever it says that when it comes down to the final 6 holes and he is neck and neck with someone I wouldn't put money on him but he can close out a big lead
Both are brilliant at their respective sports - one of the best around during their time. Both are clinical and single minded in their focus for winning. Both are very much marmite but expect all golf fans would recognise their talent
For me Sports is all about watching highly skilled players entertain with both their ability and character- the problem is now in a lot of sports there is so much riding on it , so much money can be won and for some it's their careers , their home life so it's always going to be about crossing the line to get the pay cheque - they don't really care about entertaining people.
I personally have started to stop watching the US golf - it's soooooooo slloooowww and mind numbingly boring - watching Spieth and Snedeker take minutes over each shot and analyse it to death just made me what to switch it off and I did - how many others will do that ? Will the way the players are start to affect viewing figures etc. Golf in the main on the telly especially in the US for me is dull as dishwater bar the odd comp or when they have someone like Lowry or Beef who also just wants to have fun out there.
Golf needs more Beef than Spieth
As for choking - I agree with whoever it says that when it comes down to the final 6 holes and he is neck and neck with someone I wouldn't put money on him but he can close out a big lead
Actually, they are there to be entertaining. That way people pay to watch them, sponsors pay to be seen with them, tv companies pay so that we can all see them. We can't expect them all to be cheery like Phil but to say that they have no responsibility to entertain is not right.
Relating to Speith I find him interesting to watch. Mr Day however, yawn.
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