Isolation of the over 70s

[SasquatchSQ]

Our daughter lives at home, goes to work. There's an infinitely bigger chance of her bringing something home than me catching it on the golf course.

Yes, but if she brings it home, you might then spread it.

People always think it won't happen to them, but hopefully they will realise in time. At the moment the average number of transmissions per infected person is about 3.

So if you get it, and give it to 3 people who each give it to 3 people... To 3... To 3, then that's 81. With a 1% mortality rate, at that point you've probably killed someone, because you didn't want to follow advice.

Every broken link in what would otherwise have been spread, might save someone's life. You'll never know of course, but that's what everyone needs to aim for. Take responsibility in not passing it on.

 

[Wolf]

You would hope their will be some sort of dispensation to attend the funeral of a loved one.

But then that negates the whole point of isolation doesn't it and logistics of proving what your doing and holding of it causes other issues. This aside if(when) they give the go ahead for this there will have to be a lot of bases covered and explained to everyone to ensure its carried out properly and effectively policed.

 

[DanFST]

What's the best time for London won't be the best time for a village up on the North Yorks Moors that gets 2 visitors a week. Where do you draw the line?

Exactly, I'm outta London for the foreseeable future. Rural Suffolk, no cases, no people. Excellent.

 

[DanFST]

You would hope their will be some sort of dispensation to attend the funeral of a loved one.

In Italy there's no attending of weddings or funerals, regardless of age.

 

[RangeMonkey]

I can't see how isolation for the over 70's will work. They still need to go out and get medication and food and that age group in particular won't all have a support network to help them

Indeed.

The hope is that communities will pull together. There’s a couple in their 80’s a few houses down from us who have no local family. If they get told to stay in, I’ll be volunteering to help them out with shopping, medication, etc. Hopefully others will do the same.

 

[3offTheTee]

There are some MP’s that are over 70. Will they have to self isolate. Perhaps it would be preferable!

 

[RangeMonkey]

There are some MP’s that are over 70. Will they have to self isolate. Perhaps it would be preferable!

Might be better for us if they all did ?

 

[PJ87]

 

[Fish]

There are some MP’s that are over 70. Will they have to self isolate. Perhaps it would be preferable!

That’s the House of Lords shut down down then ??

 

[Maninblack4612]

Yes, but if she brings it home, you might then spread it.

People always think it won't happen to them, but hopefully they will realise in time. At the moment the average number of transmissions per infected person is about 3.

So if you get it, and give it to 3 people who each give it to 3 people... To 3... To 3, then that's 81. With a 1% mortality rate, at that point you've probably killed someone, because you didn't want to follow advice.

Every broken link in what would otherwise have been spread, might save someone's life. You'll never know of course, but that's what everyone needs to aim for. Take responsibility in not passing it on.

Think you're missing the point. I was talking about the risk of playing golf versus doing practical anything else. The proposal isn't to stop the over 60s spreading it, it's to stop them getting it.

 

[Jacko_G]

Fines of up to £1k being mentioned re failure to adhere to self isolation.

Absolutely mental.

 

[sussexhacker]

Fines of up to £1k being mentioned re failure to adhere to self isolation.

Absolutely mental.

Who are you to say if it is mental or not?
We can all have our opinions on which action is needed regarding all this but none of our opinions matter there are people who know far more than you or I who make those decisions and if their advice is self isolating over 70’s we better listen to them

Not our place to say whether they are right or wrong we know less than them

 

[Jacko_G]

Who are you to say if it is mental or not?
We can all have our opinions on which action is needed regarding all this but none of our opinions matter there are people who know far more than you or I who make those decisions and if their advice is self isolating over 70’s we better listen to them

Not our place to say whether they are right or wrong we know less than them

Yes petal. Go and lie down for a while and breath normally.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Nick Ferrari on LBC reporting that over 70s will not be allowed to leave their homes and will be arrested if spotted out and about. And he referred to it as elderly ‘apartheid’. I am not aware that this is what is being proposed. Many elderly callers saying how angry they are at being so picked on and will ignore what they are being TOLD to do.

This isn’t the case is it?

 

[Rlburnside]

No it’s not the case just more scaremongering, the advice given out this morning is the over 70s should limit there social activities, But this could change.

 

[bobmac]

Fines of up to £1k being mentioned re failure to adhere to self isolation.

Absolutely mental.

Don't go to Spain then.
I believe the fines in Spain are between 500-2000 Euros

 

[DanFST]

Fines of up to £1k being mentioned re failure to adhere to self isolation.

Absolutely mental.

Bet the cost of someone in intensive for 3 weeks (as per covid) costs much more. not to mention bed space taken from someone who did follow the rules.

Having said that I doubt it'll be quarantine, probably some sort of isolation plan.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

No it’s not the case just more scaremongering, the advice given out this morning is the over 70s should limit there social activities, But this could change.

Surely to a degree any self-isolation for over 70's is unworkable. Those not able to rely on family and friends will need food and medicines and so surely some dispensation has to be be made to allow them to get these. Otherwise what happens? They don't eat, get frail(er) and die or don't get their medications and their conditions aren't kept under control until the point of hospitalisation or worse? Definitely typical LBC scaremongering at the moment

 

[Jacko_G]

Bet the cost of someone in intensive for 3 weeks (as per covid) costs much more. not to mention bed space taken from someone who did follow the rules.

Having said that I doubt it'll be quarantine, probably some sort of isolation plan.

And what about the "healthy" 35 year old walking about the community passing it on unaware. What about the 80 year old who desperately needs milk or whatever. What about needing to collect medication. What about any old person who can't afford £1k and gets caught out - are we going to pursue through the courts at X expense to the country?

It's all if's and but's but I question how workable it all is.

 

[SasquatchSQ]

And what about the "healthy" 35 year old walking about the community passing it on unaware. What about the 80 year old who desperately needs milk or whatever. What about needing to collect medication. What about any old person who can't afford £1k and gets caught out - are we going to pursue through the courts at X expense to the country?

It's all if's and but's but I question how workable it all is.

Obviously getting medication would be fine. Only someone being wilfully obtuse would think otherwise.

The point is to minimise possible transition points as far as possible.