Indyref2

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

How big is the core team now? If the Scottish sec was included then you would also need to add the Welsh and Irish as well, no English sec of course..........What starts as a core becomes a huge committee and too cumbersome. You can't include everyone if you want it to actually make decisions. People need to be grown up about it but they don't want to as that doesn't suit their own agenda.

Yes - I absolutely agree. But by not including the Scottish Secretary, other than by invitation, an impression of Scotland not being the equal partner promised is given, and this is lapped up by Indy supporters.

I read that there are 12 ministers on May's core team - nice nod to the 12 disciples there (wondering who plays Judas - who will betray her (Hammond?); who is Peter her closet ally but who is crucified for his troubles (Davis?); and Simon the Zealot (Johnson?). But I'm afraid I would struggle to argue that Andrea Leadsom merits inclusion ahead of Mundell and what would be lost?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Good to see the Scottish First Minister supporting the third Heathrow runway.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Interesting timing that the Ref2 consultancy period ends a couple of weeks before A50 is invoked.

 

[SocketRocket]

Interesting timing that the Ref2 consultancy period ends a couple of weeks before A50 is invoked.

About as interesting as a wet weekend in Worthing.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

About as interesting as a wet weekend in Worthing.

What was the point of saying that...? It's exactly the sort of statement coming from south of the border that nationalists feed off and use to justify their case. "The English don't give a...about us"

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Inevitable timing really. The SNP want to link the two, it gives them justification in their eyes. Not sure what the justification for IndyRef3 will be. I'm sure Nicola's successor will find one.

 

[patricks148]

Inevitable timing really. The SNP want to link the two, it gives them justification in their eyes. Not sure what the justification for IndyRef3 will be. I'm sure Nicola's successor will find one.

In case most of you down south hadn't noticed we have and SNP gov in Scotland and number one on its manifesto is an Independent Scotland... so this can't be that much of a surprise

 

[SocketRocket]

What was the point of saying that...? It's exactly the sort of statement coming from south of the border that nationalists feed off and use to justify their case. "The English don't give a...about us"

The point was that it's 'Doom' saying it and he says nothing that's not designed to get a reaction.

 

[SocketRocket]

In case most of you down south hadn't noticed we have and SNP gov in Scotland and number one on its manifesto is an Independent Scotland... so this can't be that much of a surprise

Is that not second to ruining the economy!

 

[patricks148]

Is that not second to ruining the economy!

I thought that was Maggie!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

In case most of you down south hadn't noticed we have and SNP gov in Scotland and number one on its manifesto is an Independent Scotland... so this can't be that much of a surprise

"Once in a generation". Us down south, but still north actually, remember that very clearly. I read his lips as he spoke. Foolishly I took the SNP at their word.

Yes their name is a clue but I did hope the ink would be fully dry on the ballot papers before this was resurrected again.

 

[patricks148]

"Once in a generation". Us down south, but still north actually, remember that very clearly. I read his lips as he spoke. Foolishly I took the SNP at their word.

Yes their name is a clue but I did hope the ink would be fully dry on the ballot papers before this was resurrected again.

You believed something King Eck said.... thats part of the problem

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Ha ha. Quite right 😁

 

[SocketRocket]

I thought that was Maggie!

Not easy when you are dead.

 

[patricks148]

Not easy when you are dead.

The damage was long long ago, the UK will still be feeling the effects long after.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

New minimum alcohol pricing law upheld by Scottish Courts.
Good news for Scotland.
Doubles the price of White Cider.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

DFT - I agree, it has to be good news. Both this and the limits for driving are areas where the rest of the UK should be following Scotland.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

DFT - I agree, it has to be good news. Both this and the limits for driving are areas where the rest of the UK should be following Scotland.

Yet still you struggle to get zero% alcohol beer in Scottish pubs and restaurants - other than the ubiquitous Becks Blue.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Zero alcohol beer tastes like dishwater. Forget about it. Just have a lemonade or orange juice. Is it that big a deal to not drink beer, non alcoholic, for one night?

I presume it is not stocked because people don't buy it. Of course, they may not buy it because they don't get a chance to try it and like it. Vicious circle etc.

 

[delc]

DFT - I agree, it has to be good news. Both this and the limits for driving are areas where the rest of the UK should be following Scotland.

Hmm! I spent a week in Scotland recently and forget all about their much stricter drink drive limits for several days until somebody pointed it out to me. Fortunately I got away with it. Would pleading being English have got me off? Generally I only drank about a pint of beer and a glass of wine with a meal, which is OK in the rest of the UK.