I had a lesson today and... (rolling thread)

[Deleted member 16999]

Is a method of influencing brain behaviour (the "neuro" part of the phrase) through the use of language (the "linguistic" part) and other types of communication to enable a person to "recode" the way the brain responds to stimuli (that's the "programming") and manifest new and better behaviours. Neuro-Linguistic Programming often incorporates hypnosis and self-hypnosis to help achieve the change (or "programming") that is wanted

 

[garyinderry]

I would be looking for a new pro. sounds like he wanted the night off.

 

[Curls]

Is a method of influencing brain behaviour (the "neuro" part of the phrase) through the use of language (the "linguistic" part) and other types of communication to enable a person to "recode" the way the brain responds to stimuli (that's the "programming") and manifest new and better behaviours. Neuro-Linguistic Programming often incorporates hypnosis and self-hypnosis to help achieve the change (or "programming") that is wanted

Nice explanation. Fancy words for what we do instinctively as children, when we get older we forget how much information we assimilated, how much control of our functions we gained (well, some of us, you should see me on a night out). We can reprogramme, but it isn't as easy as when we were younger because we've ingrained so many responses to so many things.

Does this "Zen Golf" book a few have recommended come from the same stable?

Hi Homer, I guess there's an element of it but Parent goes a bit deeper. At least he hasn't given it this name, but many principles are the same.

Your coach slowed you down. A great tip I heard last year was to swing with your mouth open. When you hit something you naturally clench your jaw. Keeping your mouth open allows for a smoother swing. After a while you don't have to actually have your mouth open (who wants that on the first tee?!) but just have your jaw relaxed.

Different paths to the same goal, a slower, smoother swing, which is always going to be better than a quick "hitty" one, particularly off the tee.

Zen Golf is more about how we see ourselves, and how we perceive others to see us, and realising that it really isn't life and death, because laugh as we might that's how it can feel at times out there. Parent gives nice practical advice and anecdotes about achieving presence of mind. Not necessarily what people might think is "Zen-like" calm, just clarity of thought. It's amazing what we can do when we get out of our own way, think clearly and execute the shot with 100% commitment. Is it always going to go perfectly? Of course not, not even the greats can do that. But we have a much better chance of success that way and if it doesn't go right, feel much calmer and in perspective about what has just happened, and what happens next.

 

[garyinderry]

Pretty sure Westwood did a video for golf monthly about holding a tee in his teeth so he doesn't bite down on them if he tenses up.

 

[Curls]

Pretty sure Westwood did a video for golf monthly about holding a tee in his teeth so he doesn't bite down on them if he tenses up.

Fancy school - NLP

School for idiots - mouth open, catching flies

Worksop school - jam a tee in his gob

Sound advice however you come by it

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I would be looking for a new pro. sounds like he wanted the night off.

Not at all. Fifty minutes instead of the booked thirty, and he came back for a ten minute refresh after the lesson after me.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Nice explanation. Fancy words for what we do instinctively as children, when we get older we forget how much information we assimilated, how much control of our functions we gained (well, some of us, you should see me on a night out). We can reprogramme, but it isn't as easy as when we were younger because we've ingrained so many responses to so many things.



Hi Homer, I guess there's an element of it but Parent goes a bit deeper. At least he hasn't given it this name, but many principles are the same.

Your coach slowed you down. A great tip I heard last year was to swing with your mouth open. When you hit something you naturally clench your jaw. Keeping your mouth open allows for a smoother swing. After a while you don't have to actually have your mouth open (who wants that on the first tee?!) but just have your jaw relaxed.

Different paths to the same goal, a slower, smoother swing, which is always going to be better than a quick "hitty" one, particularly off the tee.

Zen Golf is more about how we see ourselves, and how we perceive others to see us, and realising that it really isn't life and death, because laugh as we might that's how it can feel at times out there. Parent gives nice practical advice and anecdotes about achieving presence of mind. Not necessarily what people might think is "Zen-like" calm, just clarity of thought. It's amazing what we can do when we get out of our own way, think clearly and execute the shot with 100% commitment. Is it always going to go perfectly? Of course not, not even the greats can do that. But we have a much better chance of success that way and if it doesn't go right, feel much calmer and in perspective about what has just happened, and what happens next.

Good old Google😃

 

[richart]

Not at all. Fifty minutes instead of the booked thirty, and he came back for a ten minute refresh after the lesson after me.

Did he make a phone call at the end of the lesson to his wife, telling her he sorted his pension problems ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Did he make a phone call at the end of the lesson to his wife, telling her he sorted his pension problems ?

The Bentley and holiday home is on order

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The Bentley and holiday home is on order

I might criticise many things but I rarely if ever mock your golf. A little courtesy in return is in order.

 

[pokerjoke]

Did he make a phone call at the end of the lesson to his wife, telling her he sorted his pension problems ?

The Bentley and holiday home is on order

I might criticise many things but I rarely if ever mock your golf. A little courtesy in return is in order.

Don't worry Homer they are both like love struck teenagers with each other at the moment.

Shocking really when Phil was bemoaning others having a pop at him.

 

[Grogger]

Had a lesson last Thursday and something just stuck in my head for once. Was absolutely creaming every shot and getting that satisfying noise off the club face every time I hit the ball.

Played golf on Monday and wasn't to sure if the lesson had stuck with me. Anyway fast forward 18 holes and I came off the course with my highest stableford score of 37 and played the best golf I'd ever played.

Went to the range this afternoon and its carried on. Looks like I've really turned a corner in my game. Hopefully get my first card in soon in the next few weeks and get my handicap. Really hoping to do a few comps this summer

 

[patricks148]

Had a lesson last Thursday and something just stuck in my head for once. Was absolutely creaming every shot and getting that satisfying noise off the club face every time I hit the ball.

Played golf on Monday and wasn't to sure if the lesson had stuck with me. Anyway fast forward 18 holes and I came off the course with my highest stableford score of 37 and played the best golf I'd ever played.

Went to the range this afternoon and its carried on. Looks like I've really turned a corner in my game. Hopefully get my first card in soon in the next few weeks and get my handicap. Really hoping to do a few comps this summer

Oh dear..

last thing you want to do it think you have cracked it.... Que a bad round.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Had a lesson last Thursday and something just stuck in my head for once. Was absolutely creaming every shot and getting that satisfying noise off the club face every time I hit the ball.

Played golf on Monday and wasn't to sure if the lesson had stuck with me. Anyway fast forward 18 holes and I came off the course with my highest stableford score of 37 and played the best golf I'd ever played.

Went to the range this afternoon and its carried on. Looks like I've really turned a corner in my game. Hopefully get my first card in soon in the next few weeks and get my handicap. Really hoping to do a few comps this summer

Always good to gain momentum - use it well and hope to keep it going

 

[Grogger]

Oh dear..

last thing you want to do it think you have cracked it.... Que a bad round.

Im not saying I've cracked it! Can anyone crack golf? Just that I've turned a corner in my game and I'm getting a bit of consistency. I'm under no illusions that a bad round is somewhere in the future but for the time being I'm enjoying my golf.

 

[patricks148]

Im not saying I've cracked it! Can anyone crack golf? Just that I've turned a corner in my game and I'm getting a bit of consistency. I'm under no illusions that a bad round is somewhere in the future but for the time being I'm enjoying my golf.

Hope you have, just going by experience of everytime i thought i had, it was followed by a jolt back to reality:thup:

 

[Grogger]

Hope you have, just going by experience of everytime i thought i had, it was followed by a jolt back to reality:thup:

Hahahaha I know what you mean. Makes you wonder why we keep coming back to it!

 

[Ads749r]

Thanks for that. Wasn't sure myself. It was strange but he asked me to simply put my tongue at the base of my mouth and focus on my breathing from the chest (but not listening to it). Apparently this reduces the heart rate. All I know is I felt so calm over the ball and with a slower takeaway was able to make some really solid shots. Not sure how or why but seemed to slow me down completely. Apparently he does a lot of NLP work with is plus figure and single figure pupils so their might be something in it although I'd not heard of it. Does this "Zen Golf" book a few have recommende come from the same stable?

a lot of bodybuilders do that technique of the tounge in the roof of the mouth as it is impossible to tense your neck muscles pushing your tounge up in the roof of your mouth (you've just tried haven't you). Reduces tension and relaxes you and in bodybuilding reduces the risk of injury.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Had a lesson last Thursday and something just stuck in my head for once. Was absolutely creaming every shot and getting that satisfying noise off the club face every time I hit the ball.

Played golf on Monday and wasn't to sure if the lesson had stuck with me. Anyway fast forward 18 holes and I came off the course with my highest stableford score of 37 and played the best golf I'd ever played.

Went to the range this afternoon and its carried on. Looks like I've really turned a corner in my game. Hopefully get my first card in soon in the next few weeks and get my handicap. Really hoping to do a few comps this summer

Good news. It will go backwards inevitably at some point but stick with what you were shown and trust it. You know it works

 

[snell]

I might criticise many things but I rarely if ever mock your golf. A little courtesy in return is in order.

Think you're best off ignoring LiverpoolDil the troll

Interesting tips from your lesson, makes sense though. And if you're seeing results then that's bang on :thup: