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we don't speak anymore. too awkward...I'm more interested in what it has meant for his auntie....!
we don't speak anymore. too awkward...I'm more interested in what it has meant for his auntie....!
Depends on the course. If you can't reach GIR on more than a couple of holes then you'd struggle to play to 12 i would think.
No disrespect, but that's rubbish. Chip/pitch close enough and you could not get a single GIR and go round in level. You won't get many birdies, but you could easily play to 12 if you were decent with the short game
Depends on the course. If you can't reach GIR on more than a couple of holes then you'd struggle to play to 12 i would think.
Depends on the course. If you can't reach GIR on more than a couple of holes then you'd struggle to play to 12 i would think.
I think there's a difference between not hitting a green and not being able to reach them.
With a good short game it's feasible to miss every green and still break 80. If you're always 50yds short then you're more than likely looking at 85 even with good pitching and putting.
The shorter you hit it - the better your approach and short game needs to be.
If you can make gains in distance then you should do it.
You can't gain distance without improving quality of your movement or the quality of the strike
That will have an impact throughout the bag. A little gain with driver, and a little gain with an iron will mean going from Driver + 5 iron to Driver + 7 iron, and that's a BIG difference in terms of how accurate your approach shot will be.
It's much easier to get up and down from 15 yards off the green than 25-50 yards short.
The shorter you hit it - the better your approach and short game needs to be.
If you can make gains in distance then you should do it.
You can't gain distance without improving quality of your movement or the quality of the strike
That will have an impact throughout the bag. A little gain with driver, and a little gain with an iron will mean going from Driver + 5 iron to Driver + 7 iron, and that's a BIG difference in terms of how accurate your approach shot will be.
It's much easier to get up and down from 15 yards off the green than 25-50 yards short.
Anyone read the book Every Shot Counts?
Pretty interesting stuff - the statistics for all levels of golfer show that all of the old adages are not correct. Drive for show putt for dough should actually be the other way round, and apparently you are better hitting longer drives that end up off the fairway than shorter drives which are straight.
I think short game is the key here - with the distances mentioned at the start of the thread you will be around the green somewhere in 2 shots. Getting up and down is therefore par golf.
GreggerKBR is right - if you can work on distance then do it. I drive the ball quite a bit further than my playing partners so they are often on a 5 iron second shot when I've got an 8 iron etc. Makes the short game much easier from there.
As long as the rough isn't too penal then yeah - but you certainly don't get anywhere hitting wayward drives at my course, since basically every hole is tree-lined. So chances are if you miss the fairway by more than 6 yards you'll have a tree in your way.Anyone read the book Every Shot Counts?
Pretty interesting stuff - the statistics for all levels of golfer show that all of the old adages are not correct. Drive for show putt for dough should actually be the other way round, and apparently you are better hitting longer drives that end up off the fairway than shorter drives which are straight.
I think short game is the key here - with the distances mentioned at the start of the thread you will be around the green somewhere in 2 shots. Getting up and down is therefore par golf.
GreggerKBR is right - if you can work on distance then do it. I drive the ball quite a bit further than my playing partners so they are often on a 5 iron second shot when I've got an 8 iron etc. Makes the short game much easier from there.
As long as the rough isn't too penal then yeah - but you certainly don't get anywhere hitting wayward drives at my course, since basically every hole is tree-lined. So chances are if you miss the fairway by more than 6 yards you'll have a tree in your way.
And I don't agree with 'drive for show putt for dough should be the other way round' - putting is always going to be crucial - no matter how many strokes it took you to get to the green, three-putting will always add another one! Fundamental.
Anyone read the book Every Shot Counts?
Pretty interesting stuff - the statistics for all levels of golfer show that all of the old adages are not correct. Drive for show putt for dough should actually be the other way round, and apparently you are better hitting longer drives that end up off the fairway than shorter drives which are straight.
I think short game is the key here - with the distances mentioned at the start of the thread you will be around the green somewhere in 2 shots. Getting up and down is therefore par golf.
GreggerKBR is right - if you can work on distance then do it. I drive the ball quite a bit further than my playing partners so they are often on a 5 iron second shot when I've got an 8 iron etc. Makes the short game much easier from there.
That makes complete sense to me, assuming your wayward drive is playable rather than lost, or in such a position that requires a sideways hack out
And I don't agree with 'drive for show putt for dough should be the other way round' - putting is always going to be crucial - no matter how many strokes it took you to get to the green, three-putting will always add another one! Fundamental.