Alan Clifford
Well-known member
Can one not just tell one's golf club that one will be submitting all cards for handicap? Or is there some pedantic rule that disallows that? Or have I lost track of the point of this thread?
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srixon 1
Journeyman Pro
No. You manually enter the markers name in HDID. Or, there is an option to not even bother.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
In my experience those who complain that they haven’t a clue how it works simply haven’t really tried, and so haven’t accepted that there are bits ‘behind the scenes’ about which we don’t need to know the workings.My brother still hasn't a clue how it works from his email this morning and he's a retired University professor
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
It is easy to enforce…all you need are golfing companions with integrity and honesty.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
A familiar irritation topic I know, but: having a betterball match arranged for this Saturday since the end of May, then today, three days before it, one of the opponents remembers he can't make it. Now having to ask for an extension to the deadline to fit it in two weeks later. 
LincolnShep
Head Pro
Offering to rearrange is very generous of you. Unless there is a very good reason why he can't make the arranged tee time, I'd be telling the other guy to turn up and play on his own.A familiar irritation topic I know, but: having a betterball match arranged for this Saturday since the end of May, then today, three days before it, one of the opponents remembers he can't make it. Now having to ask for an extension to the deadline to fit it in two weeks later.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Personally I don't like to win that way, I'd rather play the match if at all possible.
cliveb
Head Pro
Admit it, what really bothers you is the danger that a guy on his own might win. Oh, the embarrassment
Whereditgo
Journeyman Pro
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I actually never considered the possibility of him playing it on his own, haha. I would've just assumed we get awarded the match or something. There probably is a good chance of him beating us on his own as well since he's off 8!Admit it, what really bothers you is the danger that a guy on his own might win. Oh, the embarrassment
NearHull
Well-known member
When GP rounds were introduced, we were never happy that certifying checks and balances were absent in HDID and we still are not convinced by the recent enhancements of recording scorers. Consequently, we have never enabled GP scores on the HDID App.
If you want to put in a GP round, then use the EG App.
If you want to put in a GP round, then use the EG App.
Backache
Assistant Pro
We already have about 3 layers of handicap. Why not introduce a further one have a competition handicap and a friendly handicap?
The former to be used in all club competitions , Opens etc. the latter for fun events like society outings balls ups etc.
For the latter you can use as many GP rounds as you like , for the former at least 90% of your qualifying rounds must be from competitive games.
The former to be used in all club competitions , Opens etc. the latter for fun events like society outings balls ups etc.
For the latter you can use as many GP rounds as you like , for the former at least 90% of your qualifying rounds must be from competitive games.
rulie
Head Pro
Then we could double or triple the amount of complaints and rhetoric about the handicapping system(s) and manipulators. For example, what would the maximum allowed difference be between the two?
Backache
Assistant Pro
There wouldn't need to be one, why should there be one?
You can manipulate both but one is a lot harder to manipulate than the other, accept that GP cards are readily manipulated and don't allow them to affect competitive play.
Alan Clifford
Well-known member
That's something I've thought would be a good plan. Except I'd go for a competition handicap and an "everything" handicap. But the only problem I see is the definition of competition: Is a 9 hole roll up at your club a competition?
Backache
Assistant Pro
Not the way we play roll ups, there's usually a cross over between match play and stroke play and they are done for fun.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Career day at +5 gross and still came 2nd
srixon 1
Journeyman Pro
Welcome to the world of low handicap golfers Homer. It happens all the time.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I was off 11 off the yellows for first time so thought I might have at least had a chance. As I've said on here so many times you can only do the best by your own ball and shoot as low as you can. If someone has an equally good day nothing you an do. Think I've won the roll up side bet and will get a pick up from the club for 2nd onto my pro shop account plus my 2 x 2's so more cash on the card to come so all goodWelcome to the world of low handicap golfers Homer. It happens all the time.
woofers
Medal Winner
Same with IG, checks and balances are absent, so it’s not enabled at my club.
The EG App is not much better.
The Rules of Handicapping for acceptable scores require players to :
declare their intent,
for scores to be pre-registered,
attested by a marker,
in an authorised format of play
and submitted by midnight.
An organised competition will comply with all of these requirements, whilst the EGApp allows all of them to be circumvented for general play if the players are so minded.
It’s not a lack of knowledge that allows players to put in scores from team events or 4BBB, it’s just the fact that if they are so minded, they can. I don’t say they are cheating, they just aren’t playing by the rules, and some people think rules don’t apply to them.
It’s a shame that the authorised system of the governing body allows all these ‘loopholes’ and non-compliance, I wonder if the CEO and Board are aware, or care?
