My reading of things is that that because the tees being used aren't rated for ladies, they were arbitrarily given handicaps of 4, even though their actual WHS indexes are around the +5 mark.
I'm not fully clue'd up on the rules for this competition but I think the 4 shot allowance is to compensate for playing off the back tees so I think the answer is no they don't.
That's 'normal' Foursomes, which use 'official' handicaps. Sunningdale Foursomes team handicap is the sum of individual handicaps, as per the +1, 0, 2, 4 allocation.
My post was about my disappointment about the comments being posted by some on social media and the streaming youtube channel saying that the handicapping used by Sunningdale was unfair on the pros; that it made the final boring - and implying that the girls were somehow unworthy winners (even though the match would have been about all square after 13 had absolutely no shots been given).
Don’t forget that pairs don’t just play the Old course. They also have matches on the longer New course (in fact I think the semi-finals were played on the New), and the same handicaps apply. I note also that the handicap allowances will probably take into consideration that there are some very short par 4s on the Old especially. Holes that gents pros can drive, unlikely for even the very longest ladies, and these holes will not generally be shot holes. Plus the fact that only 6 times previously in the history of the comp have a ladies pair won it suggests Sunningdale have their handicapping right.
All from 1982. And while it might reflect to 'social' aspect of the tournament, there have been plenty of mixed winners or finalists. In fact, from 2014 to 2020 (the last previous result on their list) there has only been 1 winning all-male pair.
Because you keep asking that same question and as mentioned some of the social media whinging was about unfairness around the handicaps and that somehow the girls didn’t deserve to win…and I give the same answer…that in fact even without the shots they were receiving they were competing neck and neck with the guys. I have not made any complaining comments about the handicaps or the coverage, in fact on the contrary.
I don't know about your way, but after that 20 odd hours of rain we just had, my weather apps are predicting sun for a whole week now.
At least one of the two isn’t arguing, just trying to explain and clarify what seemed to him to be a very obvious random irritation ?. Anyway…this one is done with it.
Same here. It will be a welcome change from persistent rain.
