duncan mackie
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One thing you jear all the time is one player saying to another 'Take your time'. That is advice, surely.
why?
and can you post the exact question you worded please.
One thing you jear all the time is one player saying to another 'Take your time'. That is advice, surely.
I sent a query to the R&A through the Rules website, so I will post the answer if and wen received.
One thing you jear all the time is one player saying to another 'Take your time'. That is advice, surely.
The curious thing about not saying anything in that situation is not just that nothing said means something, but that nothing said can mean two different things. The player might actively mean " I am knowingly putting another ball in play" or passively mean "I really intend this to be a provisional but i've forgotten to say/don't know any better." If the latter, the player who intends the ball he is about to play to be a provisional and says nothing is about to breach a rule.
To answer your question, a referee should ask the player about to play another ball whether it is a provisional or not.
For me there has to be a clear difference from offering advice to offering options if you get asked the question "what do I do?"
Your options are.......
That's not advice but it does give clear indication to drop options for people who maybe not fully aware of drop rules/options
Do you hit the guy that asked with a 2-shot Penalty/Loss of hole for asking for advice?
'What can I do here?' is much better - even though ambiguous. 'What are my options here?' is unambiguously seeking facts, not advice.
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One thing you jear all the time is one player saying to another 'Take your time'. That is advice, surely.
The key word was indeed referee, probably because I was answering Foxholer's questioning whether a referee would ask a player if a second ball being put into play was a provisional or not.I think your key word here is 'referee'
Maybe im imagining this but when the mag did a piece with John Paramore [sp] didnt he say this was the most common rule broken as it is indeed advice .. Jezz / Mike do ye remember the interview ?
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One thing you jear all the time is one player saying to another 'Take your time'. That is advice, surely.
Maybe im imagining this but when the mag did a piece with John Paramore [sp] didnt he say this was the most common rule broken as it is indeed advice .. Jezz / Mike do ye remember the interview ?
I'm not so sure that I would love golf as much if I was stopped from making a comment to a fellow player to "take you're time" when he's already 3 putted. We aren't playing for £1m and I think that I would be tempted to crown anyone who pulled me up on it and penalised me!
why?
and can you post the exact question you worded please.
I was playing with a guy recently and I told him he was a bit fat to wear pink J Lindeberg trousers and white belt.
Was that advice?
I was playing with a guy recently and I told him he was a bit fat to wear pink J Lindeberg trousers and white belt.
Was that advice?
I was playing with a guy recently and I told him he was a bit fat to wear pink J Lindeberg trousers and white belt.
Was that advice?
And come on, what was your question to the R&A?
The key word was indeed referee, probably because I was answering Foxholer's questioning whether a referee would ask a player if a second ball being put into play was a provisional or not.
So how about a Fellow Competitor or (more importantly) his Marker who is specifically defined as 'not a referee'.