Out of Bounds and ball lost Rule Query

[TJ Hooker]

Hi Advice needed on rules please based on a round last week.

Two players
Both hit tee shots big right around trees.
Blind to landing area from the tee.

Neither plays a provisional.

Player 1 (me) Ball found 2 yards OB so playing 4th shot 2 club lengths in. Fine with that.

Player 2 cant find his thouhh was heading towards OB though cant be confirmed but he declares it lost and plays "third shot". I think this is wrong and it should be playing 4 as did not return to the tee.

Player 1 also loses his ball on his 4 shot heading near to OB again though cant be confirmed and plays 7 ..should this be 6 ? OB could not be confirmed

So OB and lost scenarios and correct procedure advice please if possible.

Thanks for any guidance.

 

[Viewer]

Both should go back to the tee to play 3rd shots

 

[doublebogey7]

For both OB and lost ball it is stroke and distance under the rules of golf. There is a local rule that clubs could adopt to give players the option of dropping on the fairway at the nearest point to where the ball was thought to be lost or have gone OB, for a two shot penalty. However scores played under this local rule are not acceptable for handicapping in the UK, so I have not come across any club that has adopted it.

 

[jim8flog]

As already said

The club must have this rule in place as a local rule to avoid going back to play from where the previous shot was played from . When the question was asked on this forum nobody said their club had adopted it.

It is worth remembering that the advice is if the rule is in place is it should not be used for official club clubs.

 

[Steve Wilkes]

If it was just a friendly round of golf, and not a handicap qualifying round
Then Player 1, plays 4 from anywhere up to two clubs onto the fairway not nearer the hole from where the ball crossed the OOB
Player 2, also plays 4 from anywhere up to two clubs onto the fairway not nearer the hole from where the ball is estimated to lost
Player 1, Plays 7 from where his 4th shot is estimate to be lost or OOB

 

[IanM]

Plays 7? Two lost balls, time to walk to the next tee.

As above, I've not come across anywhere that's implemented the rule either. I wonder if the Home Unions know of any.

 

[Steve Wilkes]

Plays 7? Two lost balls, time to walk to the next tee.

As above, I've not come across anywhere that's implemented the rule either. I wonder if the Home Unions know of any.

We use this rule in our Society Venues and if we have a friendly tee-time. It saves the time of the walk back to the tee.

 

[doublebogey7]

If it was just a friendly round of golf, and not a handicap qualifying round
Then Player 1, plays 4 from anywhere up to two clubs onto the fairway not nearer the hole from where the ball crossed the OOB
Player 2, also plays 4 from anywhere up to two clubs onto the fairway not nearer the hole from where the ball is estimated to lost
Player 1, Plays 7 from where his 4th shot is estimate to be lost or OOB

If it is simply a friendly game with mates, then it is up to the group what rules they adopt and what they don't. We generally play a hybrid of the MLR in question. We also have gimmies to speed the game up are very generous on our interpreting GUR etc.

 

[Viewer]

If it was just a friendly round of golf, and not a handicap qualifying round
Then Player 1, plays 4 from anywhere up to two clubs onto the fairway not nearer the hole from where the ball crossed the OOB
Player 2, also plays 4 from anywhere up to two clubs onto the fairway not nearer the hole from where the ball is estimated to lost
Player 1, Plays 7 from where his 4th shot is estimate to be lost or OOB

If it’s just a friendly round of golf then on that basis they can make up what they like between really!

 

[Steve Wilkes]

If it’s just a friendly round of golf then on that basis they can make up what they like between really!

Well obviously, if it's a friendly they can do what they like, but in the original post they already insinuated they are trying to use the E-5 rule, so I just stated what shots they are playing using the rule E-5 recomendation.

 

[Viewer]

Well obviously, if it's a friendly they can do what they like, but in the original post they already insinuated they are trying to use the E-5 rule, so I just stated what shots they are playing using the rule E-5 recomendation.

Reads more like they don’t know much about the Rules at all TBF!