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[Deleted member 18588]

One good season in three in the CL and the man's a hero.

As for managers at Villa under Lerner's ownership O'Neill did pretty well. Over Lambert's spell in charge they continued to support him in the transfer market.

 

[Val]

One good season in three in the CL and the man's a hero.

As for managers at Villa under Lerner's ownership O'Neill did pretty well. Over Lambert's spell in charge they continued to support him in the transfer market.

Surprised you didn't mention Houllier or Mcleish, both proven mangers and both will go down as Villa failures and likewise the 2 that followed Lambert. O'Neill was the only one supported with cash, the rest weren't. A bigger poisoned chalice than Newcastle.

Celtic getting to the CL is major success when you consider some of the qualifiers, we had Arsenal one year ffs. Coming out the CL third is a result so he didn't have 1 good in three he had one exceptional year in 3.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Surprised you didn't mention Houllier or Mcleish, both proven mangers and both will go down as Villa failures and likewise the 2 that followed Lambert. O'Neill was the only one supported with cash, the rest weren't. A bigger poisoned chalice than Newcastle.

Celtic getting to the CL is major success when you consider some of the qualifiers, we had Arsenal one year ffs. Coming out the CL third is a result so he didn't have 1 good in three he had one exceptional year in 3.

Will have to agree to disagree over Lennon as we clearly see his capabilities and achievements differently.

As for Lambert he got plenty of support in the market from Lerner but could notconsolidate O'Neill's legacy.

McLeish was doomed from the outset as the fans were never likely to accept him and Houllier was only ever a short-term panic appointment.

Sherwood was just a case of a man out of his depth with only very limited managerial experience.

 

[Val]

Will have to agree to disagree over Lennon as we clearly see his capabilities and achievements differently.

As for Lambert he got plenty of support in the market from Lerner but could notconsolidate O'Neill's legacy.

McLeish was doomed from the outset as the fans were never likely to accept him and Houllier was only ever a short-term panic appointment.

Sherwood was just a case of a man out of his depth with only very limited managerial experience.

Looks like we'll disagree on Lambert too

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Looks like we'll disagree on Lambert too

Nett spend £50 million over less than three years.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

With Brighton looking to replace Newcastle in the EPL......... I wonder if Newcastle fans think the Chris Houghton/Colin Calderwood partnership is still useless.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

With Brighton looking to replace Newcastle in the EPL......... I wonder if Newcastle fans think the Chris Houghton/Colin Calderwood partnership is still useless.

I think that Newcastle fans didn't think that partnership was useless anyway

 

[Jensen]

With Brighton looking to replace Newcastle in the EPL......... I wonder if Newcastle fans think the Chris Houghton/Colin Calderwood partnership is still useless.

They never thought that, Hughton brought them straight back up from the Championship. Toon fans were annoyed when Ashley sacked him and replaced him with Pardew. Although to be fair I thought Pardew did a decent job

 

[Val]

Nett spend £50 million over less than three years.

How does that compare to clubs relegated in the same period which is the only way to benchmark it.

Although £50m is a lot of dough, in Premiership terms it's chicken feed over 3 years when you consider what average strikers have moved around for.

 

[sawtooth]

Did you say Craig Gordon?

[video=youtube;LHhth9CmbJ8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHhth9CmbJ8[/video]

 

[Val]

Did you say Craig Gordon?

[video=youtube;LHhth9CmbJ8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHhth9CmbJ8[/video]

Superb till he got injured

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Val - Very true. A case of what could have been.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Superb till he got injured

And even after .....he is still better than most EPL keepers.
You don't get to be the worlds most expensive goalie by accident.

 

[sawtooth]

You don't get to be the worlds most expensive goalie by accident.

True. Look at the record sums paid for Carroll (£35M) and Torres (£50M). Gordon must have been sheer quality.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And even after .....he is still better than most EPL keepers.
You don't get to be the worlds most expensive goalie by accident.

Sorry but no - and being expensive doesn't automatically mean too quality

 

[Doon frae Troon]

True. Look at the record sums paid for Carroll (£35M) and Torres (£50M). Gordon must have been sheer quality.

He was at the time. [I think you may have a selective memory]

A really bad injury slowed him down a bit but still a class act.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

He was at the time.

Yet he went to Sunderland as opposed to a top club.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Yet he went to Sunderland as opposed to a top club.

He signed for a then world record fee for Sunderland, perhaps the 'top' clubs could not match them.
If I recall correctly, there were quite a few after him.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

He signed for a then world record fee for Sunderland, perhaps the 'top' clubs could not match them.
If I recall correctly, there were quite a few after him.

In 2007 the top clubs all had keepers better than him

Carroll signed for a record fee

And it wasn't a world record fee for a GK

He went for 9 mil to Sunderland in 2007

Buffon went to Juve in 2001 for around 30mil

 

[Doon frae Troon]

In 2007 the top clubs all had keepers better than him

Carroll signed for a record fee

And it wasn't a world record fee for a GK

He went for 9 mil to Sunderland in 2007

Buffon went to Juve in 2001 for around 30mil

Yes sorry, British record fee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Gordon
The rest of the stuff on here.