Flags Out????

[Swinglowandslow]

Of course i know the difference, stop being silly. The point I'm making is about how negligible the risk is, and people now using that risk to get away from doing one of the traditional courtesies of golf. How many of the people who would do that think nothing of licking their ball to clean it, or don't bother washing their hands before getting a pint and a sausage roll?

Your comparison, suggesting not much difference( to bolster your argument) is what is silly. Ethan has been telling us for months about the effects of Covid, long term. And all the deaths suggest a vast difference, and I'm the one being silly??
There is a risk to handling the flagstick. Not big compared with sitting Ina crowded cinema etc, to be sure, but the risk is what it is, regardless as to whether it is compared to some other scenario.
That sort of comparison thinking is flawed, as is evident in you again doing it in your last sentence. How big a risk there is in licking your balls ?is nothing to do with whether there is a risk with handling the flagstick

 

[theoneandonly]

You wouldn’t be able to claim the game imo but the other person would be asked to explain why he didn’t allow a player to play within the rules - i would DQ them for a breach of etiquette ( which I have done before )

Not a chance, I'm sure I could comfortaby come up with my own reason for not doing it.

 

[PJ87]

I get what you are saying but this thread isn't about the Dereks it's about the Dans. The ones that say they won't tend the flag because they don't think it's necessary.

How many Dan's have you ever come across?

I've been very strong and vocal in my opinion of flag tending..however I'd still attend it if asked by any of my playing partners

Derek wises you might get a few post covid as it's a new thing

But Dan's? Will you get many?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not a chance, I'm sure I could comfortaby come up with my own reason for not doing it.

what reason could you come up with that means you are justified in denying someone something that is allowed in the rules - it’s plain good old etiquette to respect someone’s wishes to play the game within the rules.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

I like the flag out.
But my eyesight isn’t that good from 40’ so I ask you attend the flag for me !
You refuse.
If it was matchplay you would be standing on the green on your own.
Medal play I would hope one of the other players had the manners to help me .

Would be interested to hear from the comittiee guys on this if somebody refuses your request to attend the flag and you have a stalemate .
He won’t tend so I won’t putt.
If I walk away and claim the match what’s the comittiee decision.?

Personally I would tend the flag if asked, but would probably mention that there is no real need to. If I was in a group that was being particularly slow I'd suggest it best to not tend and just crack on with the game.

That said. On what basis can you claim the match. There is no penalty for putting with the flag in. So all you are doing is doubling down on the childishness.

 

[SaintHacker]

Personally I would tend the flag if asked, but would probably mention that there is no real need to. If I was in a group that was being particularly slow I'd suggest it best to not tend and just crack on with the game.

That said. On what basis can you claim the match. There is no penalty for putting with the flag in. So all you are doing is doubling down on the childishness.

And what gives you the right to decide what is right for another player? If you're in a particularly slow group I can almost guarantee it won't be flag attending that is causing the slowness

 

[SaintHacker]

I think the one thing this thread has proved is that there are certain people I would happily play golf with week in week out, and some I wouldn't want to play with is they were the only other players on earth.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

And what gives you the right to decide what is right for another player? If you're in a particularly slow group I can almost guarantee it won't be flag attending that is causing the slowness

Never said I was deciding what was right for another player. Maybe they might not know they can putt with the flag in now.

But it needs to die out like many other antiquated things in golf.

 

[RichA]

And what gives you the right to decide what is right for another player? If you're in a particularly slow group I can almost guarantee it won't be flag attending that is causing the slowness

If I laser every shot and mark and clean my ball before every putt, even the tap-ins, but I'm otherwise keeping up with play, would I be asked to get a move on or should everyone accept that the rules say I'm entitled to do it?

 

[Mandofred]

I like arguing....but.....even I have limits.....

This thread has drove me to drink......

Whenever I think I argue too much....I will think back about this thread.....and the numbness of the thinking.....and have another beer.....

 

[KenL]

I wish the R & A would take a look at this thread. This could end golf. ???

 

[SaintHacker]

Never said I was deciding what was right for another player. Maybe they might not know they can putt with the flag in now.

But it needs to die out like many other antiquated things in golf.

Ok, ill put it another way. What gives you the right to tell another player how you think they should be playing the game within the rules?

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Ok, ill put it another way. What gives you the right to tell another player how you think they should be playing the game within the rules?

Se the response you quoted.

 

[KenL]

I played today. Plenty long putts that would have needed tended in the dark ages. Pin in of course.
Guess what, never threatened to hole once.
Move on...?

 

[Mandofred]

I'd have made more putts today if the flag had only helped me...instead of just sitting there doing NOTHING. It didn't do anything for me today.

 

[SaintHacker]

I played today. Plenty long putts that would have needed tended in the dark ages. Pin in of course.
Guess what, never threatened to hole once.
Move on...?

Or maybe spend a bit more time on the practice green...

 

[KenL]

Or maybe spend a bit more time on the practice green...

What's your handicap ...hacker? ?

 

[PJ87]

Or maybe spend a bit more time on the practice green...

Our flags have been removed.. can't see the hole

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It is surprising to see how quick people will be to return to attending the flag after over a year of leaving the stick in.. thought people would just be used to it

Goes to show people just like to return to normal

But then again people will return instantly to raking bunkers I'm sure

I'll stil carry my little clip on rake .. been raking throughout and means it's always with me don't have to go looking for it .. or worry where I put it back (another debate)

 

[SaintHacker]

What's your handicap ...hacker? ?

14.

 

[KenL]

Asked the R&A on Twitter. Let's see if they reply...