Flags Out????

[Jimaroid]

How do people who can’t touch flags because of Covid deal with door handles? It must be a living nightmare for them.

 

[Blue in Munich]

How do people who can’t touch flags because of Covid deal with door handles? It must be a living nightmare for them.

It's probably causing a world wide shortage of hand gel.

 

[PNWokingham]

How do people who can’t touch flags because of Covid deal with door handles? It must be a living nightmare for them.

And if you are scared of touching the flag and can't find a way of doing it without causing yourself a heart attack - hand gel, hold a tissue or something - you should not be on the golf course

 

[SaintHacker]

So has anyone ever refused to touch a flagstick in case they get a commonn cold/flu/norovirus etc etc?

 

[PJ87]

They didn’t add anything and let’s be honest, who knows what’s best for the game? The Governing Bodies or some bloke who works for LT?

As already been explained but not fitting your agenda, on some greens depending on pin position the hole cannot be seen, it’s also possible due to bad work by a greenkeeper or due to weather the flagstick can lean towards the part of the hole the ball will enter and stop the ball from dropping, having it attended on these rare occassions a player can request it is attended.

For whatever reason you and a few others seem to be totally selfcentred and believe that the choice should be removed, personally I think yous are intelligent enough to recognise this but have been so vocal in your opposition that you now have to dig in and defend your position by introducing covid and other extremes in to the debate.

Afraid you have taken two posts .. added them together and come up with the wrong conclusion..

Yes I believe attending is outdated

No I would not refuse doing it

Covid is a seperate issue

I'd still attend but gel my hand afters

I was simply saying how would people reach to someone who wasn't comfortable

Claim it suits my agenda all you want. However now your just talking rubbish

 

[RichA]

This is comically bizarre. I have still only seen one post where anyone has said that they wouldn't tend a flag in a game of golf, but the conversation has gone polar to the point of zealotry.

A very clever lady said, "We are more alike my friends, than we are unalike."
Worth remembering.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Afraid you have taken two posts .. added them together and come up with the wrong conclusion..

Yes I believe attending is outdated

No I would not refuse doing it

Covid is a seperate issue

I'd still attend but gel my hand afters

I was simply saying how would people reach to someone who wasn't comfortable

Claim it suits my agenda all you want. However now your just talking rubbish

Never you is it, you have constantly since this thread started butted heads with everyone who has no issue with the flag being attended, time and time again saying the Governing Bodies got it wrong, it’ll die out, confined to history, 21st Century etc etc, but yet you would attend it if asked, so it obviously isn’t the big issue you claim.

 

[PJ87]

Never you is it, you have constantly since this thread started butted heads with everyone who has no issue with the flag being attended, time and time again saying the Governing Bodies got it wrong, it’ll die out, confined to history, 21st Century etc etc, but yet you would attend it if asked, so it obviously isn’t the big issue you claim.

I have no issue doing it. But I think it's stupid, outdated and pointless.

Much like talking to you on any issue but I still do it.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I have no issue doing it. But I think it's stupid, outdated and pointless.

Much like talking to you on any issue but I still do it.

And another insult, please feel free to ignore me as I’ll be ignoring you from here on in, don’t worry though it’s not your fault.

 

[PJ87]

And another insult, please feel free to ignore me as I’ll be ignoring you from here on in, don’t worry though it’s not your fault.

I'm not a Liverpool fan thanks

 

[KenL]

He is within his rights but yes that is taking things to the extreme.

Within his rights, perhaps, but absolutely ridiculous. Deserves to be ridiculed for that. Next they'll be asking you to tend the pin from 100 yards just like Phil M did one time. ?

 

[ger147]

Within his rights, perhaps, but absolutely ridiculous. Deserves to be ridiculed for that. Next they'll be asking you to tend the pin from 100 yards just like Phil M did one time. ?

I'm more than happy to tend the pin if someone wants me to when they're putting but anyone who thinks I'm walking 100 yards to mark a ball before they play an approach shot can go whistle...

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I'm not a Liverpool fan thanks

What a weird response ??‍

Is it meant to be funny, clever or meaningful?

 

[backwoodsman]

I wonder when folk will realise that the horse is dead and has been well and truly flogged ??

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I wonder when folk will realise that the horse is dead and has been well and truly flogged ??

Not anytime soon

You’ve got to remember that, to a lot of people, opinion is the same as fact

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Habits are important, but likewise the science moved on from the start of the pandemic to show transmission from surfaces is negligible as well as the presence of vaccine now so I think it's reasonable to ask which Covid measures need to be kept (e.g. distancing) and those that can be relaxed further. Just the same as any other part of easing lockdown.

Saying that I don't really care either way on flag or rake given how often it actually impacts but the comments (not yours) seem to be a bit harsh about the US.

Where is that conclusion from, that transmission from surfaces is negligible?
Cold and flu viruses were always considered more transmissible that way before Covid came on the scene.
However, because it was not proveable evidentially* for Covid doesn't mean it isn't a valid way of transmission.
* To prove beyond doubt that a virus is caught in a particular way means that you have to eliminate all other means. Clearly you can never prove transmission by touch to that standard because people don't live in a vacuum and so it could always be said that another way of transmission was possible.
Thus the " proof "isn't certain.
But you know and I know that if viruses can live for days on metal surfaces and can be picked up by hands if those surfaces are touched, then transmission is thus achieved on quite a lot of those occasions.
Playing lawyer with the argument is being in denial.

 

[clubchamp98]

Standing where? I'd putt out move on and leave you to it mate.

This thread is just an excuse to make a fuss over nothing. Pre rule changeI had the odd long putt tended due to the chance of hitting the flag and getting a penalty.

Post change that possibility has gone along with the need to have the flag tended.
You would really waste someones time and ask them to do it for no reason at all?
I find that pretty poor, wanting something just because you can.

I like the flag out.
But my eyesight isn’t that good from 40’ so I ask you attend the flag for me !
You refuse.
If it was matchplay you would be standing on the green on your own.
Medal play I would hope one of the other players had the manners to help me .

Would be interested to hear from the comittiee guys on this if somebody refuses your request to attend the flag and you have a stalemate .
He won’t tend so I won’t putt.
If I walk away and claim the match what’s the comittiee decision.?

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Saying "sorry I don't want to tend the flag because of Covid" is a pretty pish poor excuse when they've been quite happy to spend a few hours in the company of someone who may be carrying the disease!

Unless of course they've said at the start of the round "Please respect social distancing rules today. As such that means I'm afraid I won't spending any time interacting with you, including helping you look for any lost balls".

Perhaps if people are so worried about tending the odd flag, they could play in masks? Maybe get round the issue by wearing 2 gloves and not taking them off till the end?

How about clubs taping hand sanitisers to every pin?

That is not good comparison, for Gawds sake.
You can keep SD when playing golf, including looking for balls etc. In fact, the whole argument ( by the golfing fraternity for golf to be allowed) was on the basis of it being safe because SD was easy outdoors, playing golf, an individual non contact sport.
That is different from touching things which may be carrying the virus.
Your post doesn't seem to see the difference?

 

[Swinglowandslow]

???

So if you see someone inadvertently touching a flag or pin in your group are you going to immediately run off from the course screaming 'unclean unclean' at the top of your voice?

What? You have a weird way of arguing a case!

 

[clubchamp98]

How do people who can’t touch flags because of Covid deal with door handles? It must be a living nightmare for them.

Yes plus if your pp ask you to remove the flag you are going to refuse.
Make him walk all the way to remove it himself, ?