Flags Out????

[Deleted Member 1156]

But at same time will people refuse to remove the flag for someone aswell

The expression "what goes around comes around" springs to mind. If someone refused to tend a flag when asked then at some point in the future a PP will refuse to help them look for a ball or something similar. I play golf to enjoy myself and make new friends, I like to think others do so for the same reasons, not to antagonise people.

 

[PJ87]

The expression "what goes around comes around" springs to mind. If someone refused to tend a flag when asked then at some point in the future a PP will refuse to help them look for a ball or something similar. I play golf to enjoy myself and make new friends, I like to think others do so for the same reasons, not to antagonise people.

Not saying that or to antagonist

But what if someone said to you

Sorry I don't feel comfortable attending that flag due to the risk of covid ... I've had my jabs but still A risk.

Would you judge the same?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Not saying that or to antagonist

But what if someone said to you

Sorry I don't feel comfortable attending that flag due to the risk of covid ... I've had my jabs but still A risk.

Would you judge the same?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that, the discussion is about the principle of tending not the covid risk. Once it is safe to touch the flag I would have no hesitation asking someone to tend it if I felt it was appropriate.

 

[PJ87]

I don't think anyone is suggesting that, the discussion is about the principle of tending not the covid risk. Once it is safe to touch the flag I would have no hesitation asking someone to tend it if I felt it was appropriate.

However as someone has stated covid will be around forever pretty much

Is somebody not within their right to say sorry but I really don't feel comfortable

Same with a hand shake at end .. would you been offended if you put our your hand and they reply with a fist bump or elbow ..

 

[RichA]

I Googled, to see if science could settle the flag in/out debate. It didn't help.

 

[Orikoru]

I Googled, to see if science could settle the flag in/out debate. It didn't help.
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Regardless of what the science says, every golfer will judge it on their own experience. When we have free choice I'll go back to taking the flag out for 'makeable' 3-5 footers and leaving it in the rest of the time. But, I'm not bothered about leaving them in right now as we have to. One thing is for sure though, I will never again be asking anyone to attend the flag. ?

 

[Deleted member 1418]

However as someone has stated covid will be around forever pretty much

Is somebody not within their right to say sorry but I really don't feel comfortable

Same with a hand shake at end .. would you been offended if you put our your hand and they reply with a fist bump or elbow ..

Surely if someone doesn't want to tend a flag due to Covid, then they won't want to bump fists or touch elbows with a playing partner or partners at the end of a round?

 

[PJ87]

Surely if someone doesn't want to tend a flag due to Covid, then they won't want to bump fists or touch elbows with a playing partner or partners at the end of a round?

The example doesn't have to be same person

What if someone says sorry I'm not comfortable attending the flag because of covid risk

Or politely refuses a hand shake ..

Everyone going to kick up a fuss because it's part of the game?

 

[Mandofred]

During the round.....and end of the round......

 

[Deleted member 1418]

The example doesn't have to be same person

What if someone says sorry I'm not comfortable attending the flag because of covid risk

Or politely refuses a hand shake ..

Everyone going to kick up a fuss because it's part of the game?

Saying "sorry I don't want to tend the flag because of Covid" is a pretty pish poor excuse when they've been quite happy to spend a few hours in the company of someone who may be carrying the disease!

Unless of course they've said at the start of the round "Please respect social distancing rules today. As such that means I'm afraid I won't spending any time interacting with you, including helping you look for any lost balls".

Perhaps if people are so worried about tending the odd flag, they could play in masks? Maybe get round the issue by wearing 2 gloves and not taking them off till the end?

How about clubs taping hand sanitisers to every pin?

 

[PJ87]

Saying "sorry I don't want to tend the flag because of Covid" is a pretty pish poor excuse when they've been quite happy to spend a few hours in the company of someone who may be carrying the disease!

Unless of course they've said at the start of the round "Please respect social distancing rules today. As such that means I'm afraid I won't spending any time interacting with you, including helping you look for any lost balls".

Perhaps if people are so worried about tending the odd flag, they could play in masks? Maybe get round the issue by wearing 2 gloves and not taking them off till the end?

How about clubs taping hand sanitisers to every pin?

Sorry but this is a complete load of rubbish . You are outdoors. If somebody is 2m away it's different ...

Looking for balls you wouldn't be within 2 metres

But touching the same flag is something that could lead it transmission

Considering some on here won't even get a take away incase somebody has the illness and brings it in via the packaging I think touching the flag could be a valid reason

If you can't see the difference between being outdoors in someone's company 2 metres apart and touching a flag someone else has touched as two completely different things then you really need to study transmission

 

[BridgfordBlue]

When we are allowed to touch the flags and when there is no risk of Covid from touching it might be a big difference in dates

Could argue that’s already the case just the alternate way round, given an individual could do things now that could allow them to touch the flags and have essentially no risk of Covid from it. Far less than other things that are allowed, at the very least.

 

[theoneandonly]

Really !
You would be standing there for a very long time until you did.
It’s my choice not yours.

Standing where? I'd putt out move on and leave you to it mate.

This thread is just an excuse to make a fuss over nothing. Pre rule changeI had the odd long putt tended due to the chance of hitting the flag and getting a penalty.

Post change that possibility has gone along with the need to have the flag tended.
You would really waste someones time and ask them to do it for no reason at all?
I find that pretty poor, wanting something just because you can.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Not saying that or to antagonist

But what if someone said to you

Sorry I don't feel comfortable attending that flag due to the risk of covid ... I've had my jabs but still A risk.

Would you judge the same?

If someone has a genuine reason for not attending the flag then any fair minded person will accept it on either risk the pin in or out.

If someone is using Covid as an excuse because they simply don’t want to attend the flag, they need to take a long hard look at themselves and I for one would rather not spend time in their company.

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Sorry but this is a complete load of rubbish . You are outdoors. If somebody is 2m away it's different ...

Looking for balls you wouldn't be within 2 metres

But touching the same flag is something that could lead it transmission

Considering some on here won't even get a take away incase somebody has the illness and brings it in via the packaging I think touching the flag could be a valid reason

If you can't see the difference between being outdoors in someone's company 2 metres apart and touching a flag someone else has touched as two completely different things then you really need to study transmission

???

So if you see someone inadvertently touching a flag or pin in your group are you going to immediately run off from the course screaming 'unclean unclean' at the top of your voice?

 

[Blue in Munich]

Standing where? I'd putt out move on and leave you to it mate.

This thread is just an excuse to make a fuss over nothing. Pre rule changeI had the odd long putt tended due to the chance of hitting the flag and getting a penalty.

Post change that possibility has gone along with the need to have the flag tended.
You would really waste someones time and ask them to do it for no reason at all?
I find that pretty poor, wanting something just because you can.

Then stop making a fuss and tend the flag, there's a good chap.

 

[PJ87]

If someone has a genuine reason for not attending the flag then any fair minded person will accept it on either risk the pin in or out.

If someone is using Covid as an excuse because they simply don’t want to attend the flag, they need to take a long hard look at themselves and I for one would rather not spend time in their company.

Not saying someone would use as excuse but if somebody said it to you. Most people would accept it

 

[PJ87]

???

So if you see someone inadvertently touching a flag or pin in your group are you going to immediately run off from the course screaming 'unclean unclean' at the top of your voice?

Handgel ...

I have no problem attending if asked but I'd hand gel afters. To reduce risk

I'm sure many wouldn't care but I'm sure some wouldn't even want to touch it

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

That's just weird whatiffery.
There is no longer any reason to have the flag tended.

Some here really need to stop arguing the absurd. If the flag is on the top level of a stepped green and I cannot see the hole, and yet I want the flag to be out when the ball gets to the hole, then there is every reason for me having the flag attended. It’s not going to happen very often, but it’s really not difficult to understand and accept that sometimes a player may very legitimately wish it so.

 

[Orikoru]

Some here really need to stop arguing the absurd. If the flag is on the top level of a stepped green and I cannot see the hole, and yet I want the flag to be out when the ball gets to the hole, then there is every reason for me having the flag attended. It’s not going to happen very often, but it’s really not difficult to understand and accept that sometimes a player may very legitimately wish it so.

So you would have someone else stand there like a lemon just to improve your chance of holing it from 0.1 to 0.2% (which in all likelihood is only in your imagination anyway)? Seems a bit selfish to me.