Flags Out????

[SaintHacker]

I'm not tho? If you actually engage your reading skills you will find it's consistent ...

For the most doesn't equal all.

OK. BdC averages 29 putts per round. Therefore its safe to assume that on average he two putts 11 greens. As he's quite good at it, being a pro and all, its fair also to assume that the first putt will be a long one (flag in), the second will be short (flag out). So statistically he's putting with it out almost as much as he is with it in.

 

[clubchamp98]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...olfers-putt-with-flag-in-is-it-advantage/amp/

Interesting that Dave Pelz, ex-NASA scientist and short game guru says leaving the pin in is advantageous.

Not many pros do though.
That must tell us something.

 

[PJ87]

OK. BdC averages 29 putts per round. Therefore its safe to assume that on average he two putts 11 greens. As he's quite good at it, being a pro and all, its fair also to assume that the first putt will be a long one (flag in), the second will be short (flag out). So statistically he's putting with it out almost as much as he is with it in.

Have you included tap ins where he leaves flag?

It's much of a much.... Stand by my statement of leaving in for most

 

[PJ87]

Not many pros do though.
That must tell us something.

Many pros do things just because it suits their eye

Just like you have one pro playing single length irons .. others have grown up playing normal irons and won't change because they won't get advtange.. but in the future now single length is a thing you might see more pros play them on tour

 

[Imurg]

About a million posts ago, LPP gave a perfectly acceptable reason why someone, post covid when we're allowed to touch the flag, would want the flag attending....
They prefer thenflag out, as is their right and choice, but can't see the hole because of the slopes on the green.
So someone takes the flag out after he's hit the putt.
Where is the problem with this?
Simple - there ain't one.
The number of times, in my experience, that the flag needed attending was small before we were allowed to keep the flag in.
Post Covid it will be even more infrequent
But as long as its in the rules of the game then it can happen.
Will the R&A delete it from the rules?
I doubt it because it inconveniences nobody and has little or no effect on the pace of play.
There are many more illogical rules that need deleting before this one.

 

[clubchamp98]

Never said I was deciding what was right for another player. Maybe they might not know they can putt with the flag in now.

But it needs to die out like many other antiquated things in golf.

Well if that’s aimed at me
I have been cat1 for over 35yrs 6 now and know I can putt with the flag in but I don’t want to I like it out for all putts and attended for long ones where I can’t see the hole.
This is allowed under the rules of golf..

 

[clubchamp98]

A new word for today - lovely.

You obviously failed the diversity course then?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I’m amazed these people who believe having the flag attended is wrong, feel it is ok to belittle the intelligence and try to make fun of other posters purely because those posters don’t have an issue with the rule.

 

[clubchamp98]

As time goes by....one of the best tv series in my opinion.....

totally irrelevant to this thread...

I am just hoping to knock this thing on the head.....can't we argue about something serious like the price of beer in the club?

Played in our medal at the new club today. Walking off the 2nd green......one of my playing partners hit in the back of the head with a ball from the following group. The ball....you gotta be kidding me...ends up within a foot of the hole. Ambulance called....2 of us finished the round. The guy is ok.....lots of blood though.

Not nice.

 

[SaintHacker]

@SaintHacker I'm going to lay you a challenge

I'm about to drive to work so you have roughly 1 hour

Find one post on here , quote it unedited , where I said I wouldn't attend the flag and would refuse .

As you keep claiming I correct myself

I'm confident I didn't post that I personally would refuse (others might)

If you find it lets say by 18:30

£10 to charity of your choice

Why? As far a I'm aware you haven't said that, and I certainly haven't accused you of saying that. In fact if you can find the post, unedited, I'll double your tenner.

 

[clubchamp98]

Many pros do things just because it suits their eye

Just like you have one pro playing single length irons .. others have grown up playing normal irons and won't change because they won't get advtange.. but in the future now single length is a thing you might see more pros play them on tour

Yes it’s probably the only thing I have in common with most pros.
It suits my eye to have the flag out at all times.
So if I can’t see the hole it’s attended. Imo it’s the only reason this choice has been left in the rules.

Flag in no prob
Flag out no prob
Flag out but can’t see the hole just attended can’t see the prob.

 

[KenL]

You obviously failed the diversity course then?

I've had the training, didn't sit a test. Just as well.

 

[Mandofred]

Not nice.

I will assume you mean the head shot....he came back to the parking lot by the end of the round....so not serious.......and not a hatred of "As Time Goes By"...That might cause me to get upset

It just goes to show you.....be careful.....no reason to push things. It could have been a lot worse than it was with the head shot....

 

[Voyager EMH]

I’m relatively new to this forum, but I have a question and this might be an appropriate time to ask you more experienced lads and lasses. At what point should I step aside to the private conversation option if my discussion is becoming simply one-to-one with another poster and is possibly uninteresting to others? I have done this once so far, not out of a difference of opinion, quite the opposite – going into far too much detail about one aspect of a broader theme. Can we still retain the option of a copy-and-paste back to the thread, if we think it might be of interest to others? So that's two questions.

 

[Backsticks]

Not many pros do though.
That must tell us something.

That old habits die hard. New generations will come through growing up with, and gaining the advantage of leaving it in.

 

[SammmeBee]

I will be glad when we can take flags out again, I find it off putting on short putts, also twice this last week a reasonably paced putt has hit the flag and stayed out.

Straight pin flag or with them awful lifty up things?

 

[KenL]

I’m relatively new to this forum, but I have a question and this might be an appropriate time to ask you more experienced lads and lasses. At what point should I step aside to the private conversation option if my discussion is becoming simply one-to-one with another poster and is possibly uninteresting to others? I have done this once so far, not out of a difference of opinion, quite the opposite – going into far too much detail about one aspect of a broader theme. Can we still retain the option of a copy-and-paste back to the thread, if we think it might be of interest to others? So that's two questions.

Keep it public so we can all join in. It's a public forum after all.

 

[Orikoru]

I’m relatively new to this forum, but I have a question and this might be an appropriate time to ask you more experienced lads and lasses. At what point should I step aside to the private conversation option if my discussion is becoming simply one-to-one with another poster and is possibly uninteresting to others? I have done this once so far, not out of a difference of opinion, quite the opposite – going into far too much detail about one aspect of a broader theme. Can we still retain the option of a copy-and-paste back to the thread, if we think it might be of interest to others? So that's two questions.

If it's a disagreement you should keep it on the public forum at all times so we can get the popcorn out and enjoy it. If you're agreeing and having a love-in about something then go private, nobody wants to see two people getting along.

 

[Voyager EMH]

If it's a disagreement you should keep it on the public forum at all times so we can get the popcorn out and enjoy it. If you're agreeing and having a love-in about something then go private, nobody wants to see two people getting along.

Thanks for the advice. By "nobody" I hope you are correct with regard to everyone on this forum, whereas in the outside world...???

 

[clubchamp98]

I will assume you mean the head shot....he came back to the parking lot by the end of the round....so not serious.......and not a hatred of "As Time Goes By"...That might cause me to get upset

It just goes to show you.....be careful.....no reason to push things. It could have been a lot worse than it was with the head shot....

Last year I had a Full blooded drive in the side of the head no shout.
Blue light job full head scan out for the duration.
Can’t remember a thing after I hit the floor.
So I can empathise.
It’s not nice.