MegaSteve
Tour Winner
Seems Williams have been sold...
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bobmac
Major Champion
I hope the buyer has deep pockets
SaintHacker
Journeyman Pro
It appears they do. Sad for Williams to lose that identity as a family owned team, but its clear that the way the sport is that model is just not sustainable. The owners are making the right noises about respecting the teams heritage, not moving them from Grove etc so hopefully this is start of the road back to the front of the grid for them.
ger147
Tour Winner
Honda have announced they are leaving F1 at the end of 2021. Bad news for Red Bull, they will have to secure a new engine supplier for the start of 2022 when the new regulations come in which could put them on the back foot with the design of their 2022 car.
Also not great to only have 3 engine suppliers on the grid.
Also not great to only have 3 engine suppliers on the grid.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Get a Tesla engine... lets race a E1 against an F1
bobmac
Major Champion
cliveb
Head Pro
Ha ha. The leccy cars would blow the ice cars into the weeds at the start, and then after a while run out of juice and they'd all DNF.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Assume leccy can have 300miles range.. Each lap about 5 miles (?)... 50-60 laps would need 300 miles. They need a supercharger at the pitstop. Then it will come out and lap hamilton..
i would pay to watch this..
bobmac
Major Champion
cliveb
Head Pro
F1 races are ~200 miles (or 2 hours if that comes first).
We can use Formula E to get an idea of the power needs. They have 55kWh batteries and run for about 45mins, so that's about 1.2kWh/min.
To last 2 hours they'd need ~140 kWh (Tesla model S has 100kWh).
But Formula E cars are nowhere near as quick as F1. To compete with F1 you'd probably need at least twice the available energy, and batteries that big are going to weigh far too much. The technology isn't yet there to run full length Grands Prix at the kind of speeds you'd want on electric power only.
The only conceivable way I can think it might work is if the E-F1 cars had the ability to do some kind of rapid battery pack swap during a pit stop.
You certainly aren't going to be able to recharge the batteries fast enough. (recharging 100kWh in under a minute would require a charging rate of 6MW - ain't gonna happen).
Mudball
Assistant Pro
What if we think outside the box... keep 2 identical cars... at some point the first car comes in, the second car is ready. Driver jumps in. pit crew swap the tyres into the new car. Charge of battery wont impact weight.
If there is a will...
ger147
Tour Winner
There is no will at present.
The owners of F1 and all the teams have just signed a new 5 year agreement so at least another 5 years of turbo hybrid engines.
cliveb
Head Pro
Fair point. That's exactly how Formula E worked for the first few years.
Then the battery technology improved enough that they can go the whole race on a single charge.
Give it another few years and maybe it might be possible to get up to F1 speeds & durations.
bobmac
Major Champion
Wot, no more Honda?
ger147
Tour Winner
Not after 2021, no.
robinthehood
Hacker
win 91 from hamilton, equaling Schumachers record. Amazing.
Reemul
Head Pro
He is definitely a great driver, 7 constructors championships on the trot coming up is doing F1 no favours.
Additionally I was fed up hearing about this historic occasion, no the first time when Schuy did it was historic, it will be historic when Lewis beats it , which he will do easily. Can't see him not winning it this year and probably next year as well.
Pretty poor race today, no one but Lewis to win.
Additionally I was fed up hearing about this historic occasion, no the first time when Schuy did it was historic, it will be historic when Lewis beats it , which he will do easily. Can't see him not winning it this year and probably next year as well.
Pretty poor race today, no one but Lewis to win.
Lovely touch to give Hamilton one of Schumachers old helmets. He may be many things and not always to everybody's taste but he does have a real sense of F1 history and Schumachers achievements and part in that and seemed genuinely humbled
bobmac
Major Champion
I'm pleased I didn't click on this thread until after I saw the race on CH4 last night.
Lesson learned
ger147
Tour Winner
All sorts of sport is discussed on here live as it happens. As you say, if you don't want to know the outcome then don't click on the relevant threads until you've caught up.
