Explain something I don't understand.

[Tashyboy]

I have bored everyone on another thread how I won an 18 hole stapleford with 31 points. When I looked at the results today it shows I was one over for the comp so never recieved a drop in hcap.
This is the bit I am struggling with.

I always thought that a course like ours was ( par 72/73) .So if you shot five over after hcap As I did you would get a reduction of 0.1.
So how do you work out that the course that day is differant to par 72 ?

Whats it called ?

I just want to hit me balls and find them, but this part of understanding the game is doin me head in.

 

[CliveW]

If you shoot five over par you would get an increase of 0.1

 

[swanny32]

It's the CSS (Competition Scratch Score), it analyses everyone's scores and works out how difficult the course was playing that day and increases/decreases the "par" for the competition.

 

[ruff-driver]

[h=3]How is the Competition Scratch Score calculated?[/h]This is not a straightforward calculation. Broadly speaking, the calculations follow

1. For Men; Discount all scores returned by category 4 players(handicaps 21 to 28), for Ladies; Discount all scores returned by category 5 players (handicaps 29 to 36)
2. Calculate the percentage of players who competed in the competition in each of categories 1, 2 and 3 [and 4 for Ladies],
3. Calculate the percentage of scores returned by the category 1, 2 and 3 [and 4] players which were in the player's 'buffer zone', or better.
4. Use the percentages from (2) and (3) to determine the Competition Scratch Score by referring to a table supplied by CONGU for the purpose.

 

[Ross61]

It is down to the CSS on the day. And being as 31 one I would say the CSS would be quite high.
As for how it is calculated, I'll leave that to the experts, but I know tha calculation is complicated and it makes the old log tables I used at school look simple!

 

[Ross61]

How is the Competition Scratch Score calculated?

This is not a straightforward calculation. Broadly speaking, the calculations follow

1. For Men; Discount all scores returned by category 4 players(handicaps 21 to 28), for Ladies; Discount all scores returned by category 5 players (handicaps 29 to 36)
2. Calculate the percentage of players who competed in the competition in each of categories 1, 2 and 3 [and 4 for Ladies],
3. Calculate the percentage of scores returned by the category 1, 2 and 3 [and 4] players which were in the player's 'buffer zone', or better.
4. Use the percentages from (2) and (3) to determine the Competition Scratch Score by referring to a table supplied by CONGU for the purpose.

I believe this year they have changed the rules and cat4 players are now included in the calculation

 

[user2010]

What`s a Stapleford comp?

 

[GreiginFife]

What`s a Stapleford comp?

A bit like a stableford but someone just mis-spelled it and waited for the usual brigade to chastise them. Something like that I think.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

What`s a Stapleford comp?

Net Eagle = 4 points
Net Bird = 3 points
Net par = 2 points
Net Bogey = 1 point
Double and above = Blob, zilch, nuffink

So if you go round bang on handicap you will have scored 36 points

if you score much more then 40 points , people will start asking you where you keep your donkey & sombrero

Its just another type of game where people of different handicaps can compete against each other

 

[Foxholer]

What`s a Stapleford comp?

Net Eagle = 4 points
Net Bird = 3 points
Net par = 2 points
Net Bogey = 1 point
Double and above = Blob, zilch, nuffink

So if you go round bang on handicap you will have scored 36 points

if you score much more then 40 points , people will start asking you where you keep your donkey & sombrero

Its just another type of game where people of different handicaps can compete against each other

Whoosh! :rofl:

 

[Tashyboy]

What`s a Stapleford comp?

a flippin iPad spell check comp. don't understand them either

 

[Tashyboy]

It's the CSS (Competition Scratch Score), it analyses everyone's scores and works out how difficult the course was playing that day and increases/decreases the "par" for the competition.

But could it be less than 5 shots on the day ?

just had a thought, would four triple bogeys on the day affect the overall scoring in a stableford comp.

 

[Three]

Net Eagle = 4 points
Net Bird = 3 points
Net par = 2 points
Net Bogey = 1 point
Double and above = Blob, zilch, nuffink

So if you go round bang on handicap you will have scored 36 points

if you score much more then 40 points , people will start asking you where you keep your donkey & sombrero

Its just another type of game where people of different handicaps can compete against each other

Ha ha ha ha ha ha..
He asked what's a "stapleford", ie the lazy man's version of a "Stableford".

And how can you say that if you score 36 points you "will" have played to your handicap?
What about SSS & CSS?

 

[Tashyboy]

How is the Competition Scratch Score calculated?

This is not a straightforward calculation. Broadly speaking, the calculations follow

1. For Men; Discount all scores returned by category 4 players(handicaps 21 to 28), for Ladies; Discount all scores returned by category 5 players (handicaps 29 to 36)
2. Calculate the percentage of players who competed in the competition in each of categories 1, 2 and 3 [and 4 for Ladies],
3. Calculate the percentage of scores returned by the category 1, 2 and 3 [and 4] players which were in the player's 'buffer zone', or better.
4. Use the percentages from (2) and (3) to determine the Competition Scratch Score by referring to a table supplied by CONGU for the purpose.

Well that clears it up 😳

 

[rosecott]

How is the Competition Scratch Score calculated?

This is not a straightforward calculation. Broadly speaking, the calculations follow

1. For Men; Discount all scores returned by category 4 players(handicaps 21 to 28), for Ladies; Discount all scores returned by category 5 players (handicaps 29 to 36)
2. Calculate the percentage of players who competed in the competition in each of categories 1, 2 and 3 [and 4 for Ladies],
3. Calculate the percentage of scores returned by the category 1, 2 and 3 [and 4] players which were in the player's 'buffer zone', or better.
4. Use the percentages from (2) and (3) to determine the Competition Scratch Score by referring to a table supplied by CONGU for the purpose.

I believe this year they have changed the rules and cat4 players are now included in the calculation

Absolutely correct, Cat 4s now come into the equation and the proportions of buffers have also changed. As for the OP, 31 points on your course will almost always attract a 0.1 increase but it could have been Reductions Only.

 

[rosecott]

How is the Competition Scratch Score calculated?

This is not a straightforward calculation. Broadly speaking, the calculations follow

1. For Men; Discount all scores returned by category 4 players(handicaps 21 to 28), for Ladies; Discount all scores returned by category 5 players (handicaps 29 to 36)
2. Calculate the percentage of players who competed in the competition in each of categories 1, 2 and 3 [and 4 for Ladies],
3. Calculate the percentage of scores returned by the category 1, 2 and 3 [and 4] players which were in the player's 'buffer zone', or better.
4. Use the percentages from (2) and (3) to determine the Competition Scratch Score by referring to a table supplied by CONGU for the purpose.

I believe this year they have changed the rules and cat4 players are now included in the calculation

But could it be less than 5 shots on the day ?

just had a thought, would four triple bogeys on the day affect the overall scoring in a stableford comp.

Triple bogeys do not come into it. As far as handicap adjustments go, it's stableford points that matter.

 

[Green Bay Hacker]

What`s a Stapleford comp?

You'd be surprised at the number of people at our club who think that is the correct name for it.

 

[rosecott]

You'd be surprised at the number of people at our club who think that is the correct name for it.

It's very prevalent in Nottinghamshire as there are two places named Stapleford.

 

[woody69]

I have bored everyone on another thread how I won an 18 hole stapleford with 31 points. When I looked at the results today it shows I was one over for the comp so never recieved a drop in hcap.
This is the bit I am struggling with.

I always thought that a course like ours was ( par 72/73) .So if you shot five over after hcap As I did you would get a reduction of 0.1.
So how do you work out that the course that day is differant to par 72 ?

Whats it called ?

I just want to hit me balls and find them, but this part of understanding the game is doin me head in.

I'm confused why you think you would get a 0.1 reduction. Are you a CAT1 player? I thought you were CAT4 for some reason... do you mean 0.1 increase?

If you meant why didn't my handicap increase by 0.1, and you are CAT4, I would guess it was because the CSS was equivalent of 35 points and 31 puts you in buffer, ergo you stay the same.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Hit the ball, fill in the numbers, enjoy the company. The rest all gets too complicated and is not worth getting stressed over.