Ever decreasing speed limits!

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I'm actually a very confident driver. My mrs calls me cocky or says I push it a bit sometimes. I know my limits, well below the car of course. I have a 2010 3 series BMW and it's rubbish in the snow, wet, and generally the autumn. Hence why I take my time around the back roads of glasgow. Come summertime it's a free for all.


Coolio, your description of earlier seemed a little like it was something you did not enjoy. My bad.
 

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My other pet hate is that it is often difficult to even see speed limit signs because they are hidden behind vegatation due to Local Government cuts in road maintenance.

We have has a stretch of road near us reduced from 40 to 30 to make it safer for the people living there. I have no great argument with this although it was not an obvious black spot but there is only one very small sign half hidden to indicate this. Most people travelling through have no idea the limit was changed and the police are coining it in with speed traps. Personally I have not been caught but it is hard to see that it makes it safer for anyone if most people are unaware of the limit.
 

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Got to agree with the OP on this one. Upcoming plans to turn most of Edinburgh into a 20 mph zone is just the council's latest attack on the motorist, it's becoming impossible to drive around the city nowadays.

There's a stretch of motorway near my mum's that was 70 mph when I lived there and is now down to 50 for no apparent reason. Certainly perfectly safe to drive at 70 so this one puzzles me.
 

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We have has a stretch of road near us reduced from 40 to 30 to make it safer for the people living there. I have no great argument with this although it was not an obvious black spot but there is only one very small sign half hidden to indicate this. Most people travelling through have no idea the limit was changed and the police are coining it in with speed traps. Personally I have not been caught but it is hard to see that it makes it safer for anyone if most people are unaware of the limit.

A reduction in the speed limit to a short length of the north circular came into force earlier this year... Notice of change wasn't great and signage was poor so the inevitable occurred... However so many appealed their penalties, in the end common sense prevailed and penalties were rescinded...

Guessing this could be part of the reason why large notices are in place notifying the new average speed limits to A40 won't be enforced until Oct 26th...
 

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A stretch of a local urban A road, which had a 40 mph limit for donkeys years, was reduced to 30 mph a couple of years ago. The new 30 sign was very small and located just after a sharp bend with a new speed camera located about 50 yards further on. This caught out loads of local people, who hadn't realised that the limit had been changed! As I said, deliberate entrapment to generate speeding fines! :angry:
 

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A stretch of a local urban A road, which had a 40 mph limit for donkeys years, was reduced to 30 mph a couple of years ago. The new 30 sign was very small and located just after a sharp bend with a new speed camera located about 50 yards further on. This caught out loads of local people, who hadn't realised that the limit had been changed! As I said, deliberate entrapment to generate speeding fines! :angry:

So a 40 stretch comes down to a 30 and there is only 1 small sign...?
Bad signage and a case for appeal.
There should be a sign on either side of the road at the change point. If there isn't then its tricky to enforce a limit..
Don't forget that, if you have streetlights, a 30 zone doesn't need signs
 

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So a 40 stretch comes down to a 30 and there is only 1 small sign...?
Bad signage and a case for appeal.
There should be a sign on either side of the road at the change point. If there isn't then its tricky to enforce a limit..
Don't forget that, if you have streetlights, a 30 zone doesn't need signs
A road with street lighting needs repeaters if the speed limit is anything other than 30mph. If these had been removed, the change wouldn't have been that obvious, particularly when they were often missing or filthy dirty anyway!
 
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So a 40 stretch comes down to a 30 and there is only 1 small sign...?
Bad signage and a case for appeal.
There should be a sign on either side of the road at the change point. If there isn't then its tricky to enforce a limit..
Don't forget that, if you have streetlights, a 30 zone doesn't need signs

I seem to remember back in the 60/70s the distance between lamp posts, was different in 30 and 40 mph limits.:confused:
 

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I wonder if all these reductions in speed limits is something to do with the green lobby and their obsession with reducing Carbon emissions? That was the reason for getting us to drive diesel cars, because they produce less Carbon Dioxide (CO2) per unit of work done. However, I don't believe that CO2 is that much of a problem, because it is a food for plants. Unfortunately Diesel engines produce quite a lot of Oxides of Nitrogen, which are the basic ingredient of Nitric Acid when combined with water. Also any air pollution caused by the UK is pretty minuscule compared with India and China!
 
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The A77, around Kilmarnock to Ayr is the same. Average speed cameras and a limit of 50mph for large stretches.

No reason at all why the limit shouldn't be 70 (or more to be perfectly honest).
 

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The trouble is that 30mph signs aren't required in a built up area so the changes from 30 to 20 and 20 to 30 are misleading people. I've no objection to sensible limits but we have the right to be kept informed.
 

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Wait til the M1 trial of reducing the speed limit in Notts and sth Yorks proves successful to help lowering co emissions.
Then we can lower all speed limits to 60 on the motorways.
 

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Got to agree with the OP on this one. Upcoming plans to turn most of Edinburgh into a 20 mph zone is just the council's latest attack on the motorist, it's becoming impossible to drive around the city nowadays.

There's a stretch of motorway near my mum's that was 70 mph when I lived there and is now down to 50 for no apparent reason. Certainly perfectly safe to drive at 70 so this one puzzles me.

It's going to be great sitting in 2nd or 3rd gear all the time...surely it will increase emissions with everyone over revving their way across town.
 

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Anybody who commutes on the M3 through Surrey are having their lives made a misery due to roadworks to turn it into a so called "Smart Motorway". These are ongoing until the end of next year. The idea is that at certain times of day motorists may drive on the hard shoulder with a reduced speed limit and lots of very expensive signage. Don't know what you are supposed to do if your car breaks down or has a puncture, because there is nowhere to pull off! :mmm:
 
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