EU Referendum

[Val]

If you don't vote then don't complain. It's a very simple concept.

I said this to my 21 year old the other day who didnt vote, in fact the only vote he ever did was a yes in the Scottish referendum.

I said use your vote regardless, if you are happy with what you have vote for what you have if you are not then vote opposite just make sure you vote. If you don't vote then don't moan about roads, taxes, casualty wait times etc etc

 

[Hacker Khan]

I think the next Forum mega meet should be a match play between the leavers and stayers.

It would be brilliant, puts left one cm short would be met with 'I'm seeing that', you ask someone their handicap and when they say 13.2 the leavers reply 'I don't trust the so called COGNU experts' and then when the stayers unexpectedly lose as the oldies on the leavers team take it more seriously, the stayers would immediately demand a rematch. And the individual teams would all fall out with themselves in the bar afterwards.

 

[sawtooth]

Suggestive? Deceptive? Yes they are I agree.

But they are not clear statements that we WILL give 350m to the NHS.

To be fair to Farage I didn't hear him say that either and said it was a mistake by the leave campaign.

PM speaking now on 5live, everything under control , contingencies in place and reaffirmed that they will press ahead with article 50. Hopefully put a stop to the nonsense speculation and scaremongering.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I think the next Forum mega meet should be a match play between the leavers and stayers.

It would be brilliant, puts left one cm short would be met with 'I'm seeing that', you ask someone their handicap and when they say 13.2 the leavers reply 'I don't trust the so called COGNU experts' and then when the stayers unexpectedly lose as the oldies on the leavers team take it more seriously, the stayers would immediately demand a rematch. And the individual teams would all fall out with themselves in the bar afterwards.

:lol:

 

[the smiling assassin]

For what reason?

Simply for being Spanish. Aparently they'll soon be heading "home" because it's "what we voted for"...

 

[Val]

Simply for being Spanish. Aparently they'll soon be heading "home" because it's "what we voted for"...

Despite Scotland voting remain? Sounds like BS to me.

 

[the smiling assassin]

Are you really questioning this? I spoke with him this morning. He explained what happened. I believe that it happened, why would he lie, he's a perfectly trustworthy young man who is genuinely concerned about his girlfriend's experience in Scotland being a positive one, as he probably hopes she'll follow him here. It's one drunken idiot, they do exist. Surely that's not hard to believe.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Are you really questioning this? I spoke with him this morning. He explained what happened. I believe that it happened, why would he lie, he's a perfectly trustworthy young man who is genuinely concerned about his girlfriend's experience in Scotland being a positive one, as he probably hopes she'll follow him here. It's one drunken idiot, they do exist. Surely that's not hard to believe.

Hopefully you have hit the nail on the head there and neither of them will be put off.

 

[jp5]

Problem is that many idiots feel validated by the result of this vote.

Wherever we see this abuse it has to be called out and made known that it is not acceptable.

 

[G.U.R]

Interesting quote I heard "Not all Leave voters are Racist, but all Racists now think 52% of the population agree with them". Tar and brushes springs to mind.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

To be fair to Farage I didn't hear him say that either and said it was a mistake by the leave campaign.

PM speaking now on 5live, everything under control , contingencies in place and reaffirmed that they will press ahead with article 50. Hopefully put a stop to the nonsense speculation and scaremongering.

A mistake? Well let's for a moment just accept that Leave got their sums wrong and it was a mistake. The problem with that argument is that the 'mistake' was pointed out as soon as the Boggle Bus appeared with it plastered all over the side. But Leave continued denial that it was wrong throughout the campaign and used all possible semantics to avoid admitting it was wrong.

No - Leave knew it was wrong from the word go, but their tacticians had told them to get a 'big number' out there and stick to it. The longer the number was out there the idea would implant itself in voters heads as 'an awful lot of money' - a third of a billion pounds in fact. For Leave - if it's sounds true then that's good enough.

Of course were Leave to admit it was wrong and withdraw the number, then of course that would look bad and would make the electorate wonder about other things they'd said. No - Leave just left it there because they thought that once they'd lost the vote no-one would be bothered, and if by some weirdness they won - then no-one would care. They were wrong on both counts.

And remember that the important difference between the £350m figure and all the stuff that Remain said that is being rubbished as untruth - is that the £350m is based upon known FACT, most of what Remain said that is being cited as 'lies' were predictions. A prediction can never be a lie - it can be inaccurate - but it can't be wrong or a lie.

 

[Old Skier]

Interesting quote I heard "Not all Leave voters are Racist, but all Racists now think 52% of the population agree with them". Tar and brushes springs to mind.

Are you implying that 52% agree with the racists or just enjoying quoting some idiotic non ratified throw away remark.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

To be fair to Farage I didn't hear him say that either and said it was a mistake by the leave campaign.

PM speaking now on 5live, everything under control , contingencies in place and reaffirmed that they will press ahead with article 50. Hopefully put a stop to the nonsense speculation and scaremongering.

Indeed as 'speculation' and 'scaremongering' become 'events' and 'reporting the reality'.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Are you implying that 52% agree with the racists or just enjoying quoting some idiotic non ratified throw away remark.

There does seem to be an alarming spike in racist incidents.
How can that be explained away.

 

[Imurg]

There does seem to be an alarming spike in racist incidents.
How can that be explained away.

There's a hell of a lot of utter morons in this Country

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Fair comment but whatever arrangement is made it must include the UK being separated from the EU politically.

Surely whatever arrangement is made the main priority is whatever is best for the UK - that should be the main priority because by law the vote is not legally binding so if the government decides that the best course of action is staying in but with better deals within the EU

The most important priority will always be what is best for the UK and not ensuring we are out of the away politically.

You only have to listen to everyone talking about the future that it's clear they will look for a solution.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

There's a hell of a lot of utter morons in this Country

Who all - each and very one of them - deserved and used well their vote - this is a democracy after all.

 

[sawtooth]

There does seem to be an alarming spike in racist incidents.
How can that be explained away.

Media choose to publicise it more?

I'm sure you could make a case for an increase in anything if you put story after story in the news. My guess is that a lot of it went on before but now it's suddenly newsworthy.

Then of course you get the copy cat morons to add insult to injury.

 

[BubbaP]

There does seem to be an alarming spike in racist incidents.
How can that be explained away.

Or just receiving national media attention, rather than local news only?

 

[jp5]

Police say 60% increase in racist incidents since Friday.