EU Referendum

[Old Skier]

Don't think I ever claimed it was mostly down to age on its own. I waited for the facts from other sources before I regurgitated them as my own in an attempt to look clever. As all the best university educated people do.

I don't think I was claiming you did. I wrote "first it was claimed".

 

[FairwayDodger]

It appears Scotland have left the UK and joined the EU. Must have missed that on Google .

Seems fairly inevitable now, unfortunately.

I'm no fan of Nicola sturgeon but can't deny she's playing it perfectly. Calm but assured leadership in a crisis. In marked contrast to the omnishambles at Downing Street. A "vacuum of leadership" indeed.

 

[Old Skier]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/polit...s/you-have-made-this-man-happy-20160624109755

Best thing that came out of this is he's finished. After a few years weeks of chasing the media people will lose interest in the man.

 

[Old Skier]

Totally lost me there, what has 12 million under 30's got do do with NI and Scots voters.
Have you any idea how many voters there are in Scotland and NI?

Your lost anyway, there's no way back for you, your doomed.

12 million was the total number of registered voters that failed to vote within the UK.

The under 30s, NI and Scotland had a lower % turnout than England & Wales. Perhaps if they had turned out to vote the outcome might have been different.

Whats difficult to understand about that.

 

[Old Skier]

Seems fairly inevitable now, unfortunately.

I'm no fan of Nicola sturgeon but can't deny she's playing it perfectly. Calm but assured leadership in a crisis. In marked contrast to the omnishambles at Downing Street. A "vacuum of leadership" indeed.

She is not going to risk it until she is certain she can win, she's only in it for herself like most politicians. Another lose would see her career finished and possibly the SNP going the same way as UKIP are about to go.

 

[MegaSteve]

As someone with only five O levels [ie of low intellect if I want to believe what some are voicing on here] and having spent the vast part of my working life at the bench rather than in front of a desk... One of the things I've learnt from the hard knocks of life is...

If an outcome isn't quite as hoped for, then whinging like a proverbial stuck pig serves no purpose... Prefer to do what I've always done... Deal with it and get on with it... Its what working folk do!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Your lost anyway, there's no way back for you, your doomed.

12 million was the total number of registered voters that failed to vote within the UK.

The under 30s, NI and Scotland had a lower % turnout than England & Wales. Perhaps if they had turned out to vote the outcome might have been different.

Whats difficult to understand about that.

Jings I give up, do you actually read posts.

 

[FairwayDodger]

She is not going to risk it until she is certain she can win, she's only in it for herself like most politicians. Another lose would see her career finished and possibly the SNP going the same way as UKIP are about to go.

there will be another referendum. She's not jumping straight in but once SNP polling confirms the huge anecdotal mood swing since brexit they'll be right in there.

 

[sawtooth]

Seems fairly inevitable now, unfortunately.

I'm no fan of Nicola sturgeon but can't deny she's playing it perfectly. Calm but assured leadership in a crisis. In marked contrast to the omnishambles at Downing Street. A "vacuum of leadership" indeed.

Personally I think there is less chance of her pulling this off now than ever before.

Why would Scots vote to join EU where they would have even less influence than Britain did?

The sensible thing to do is to wait for the dust to settle and see how things pan out before backing the right horse.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Personally I think there is less chance of her pulling this off now than ever before.

Why would Scots vote to join EU where they would have even less influence than Britain did?

The sensible thing to do is to wait for the dust to settle and see how things pan out before backing the right horse.

I don't think you understand the mood here. If there was an Indy ref today I don't think the result would even be in doubt. And I say that as a definite "no" voter.

 

[MegaSteve]

I don't think you understand the mood here.

As the politicians didn't understand the mood 'here'...
Or, simply chose to ignore it...

 

[FairwayDodger]

As the politicians didn't understand the mood 'here'...
Or, simply chose to ignore it...

Indeed.... But of course some of them did understand the mood and chose to tell lies and fan the flames to suit their own personal agendas regardless of what they believed was best for the country.

 

[MegaSteve]

Indeed.... But of course some of them did understand the mood and chose to tell lies and fan the flames to suit their own personal agendas regardless of what they believed was best for the country.

Doing too little too late from those that have been in a position to do something...
Will always allow the opportunists to 'prosper'....

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Scottish Government to open talks with Brussels ministers to remain in the EU.

Denmark/Greenland/Faroes as an example of existing deals.

Brussels also want UK to start Clause 50 asap........why should Boris/Nigel/George and Co. wish any delay?

 

[Old Skier]

Jings I give up, do you actually read posts.

Yep but I'm obviously confused by your accent.

 

[Old Skier]

Indeed.... But of course some of them did understand the mood and chose to tell lies and fan the flames to suit their own personal agendas regardless of what they believed was best for the country.

Agree, her best chance is now.

 

[ColchesterFC]

More bad news from the UK today. Following the FTSE plunge and the crash in the exchange rate for the pound the price of second hand high horses has plummeted as Remain voters climbed down from them and flooded the market.

 

[Old Skier]

Scottish Government to open talks with Brussels ministers to remain in the EU.?

No they haven't , they are seeking talks with ministers. There is nothing to say yet whether Brussels will enter talks at this time.

 

[MegaSteve]

Scottish Government to open talks with Brussels ministers to remain in the EU.

Denmark/Greenland/Faroes as an example of existing deals.

Brussels also want UK to start Clause 50 asap........why should Boris/Nigel/George and Co. wish any delay?

Doubt if Scotland alone will be able to take up all the slack in lost German car sales should Brussels chose to play hard ball..

Irrespective of your hopes there will be compromises from both sides...

 

[FairwayDodger]

Agree, her best chance is now.

Not what I was driving at, of course, but I take your point.