EU Referendum

[Hobbit]

who's doing the rolling up of the sleeves and hard work?
Not the retired or those about to!
Thanks for encouragement really appreciate it.
Thats why the youf aren't happy.

A very jaundiced and disappointing view. I'm in the close to retirement bracket. I rarely work less than 60 hours a week. I'm away from home up to a week a month, but at least I have the joys of various airport departure lounges to enjoy.

Am I looking forward to retirement? I was but now I have a serious problem. I signed for the retirement home 3 weeks ago, and its in Spain. I now have the worries of residency and will I get more than 3 months a year there, loss of pension rights and access to healthcare. I suppose I could try and sell it but Spain has 25% unemployed and property isn't shifting.

Am I wailing against the situation? It is what it is. What's the point in moaning?

 

[PhilTheFragger]

With all the wailing and gnashing of teeth going on, it is important to realise that 28% of the 46 million people able to vote, didnt bother thats 12.8 million people. who sat on their backsides . Wonder How many of those wailing didnt vote?

Any way, decision made, time to brush ourselves down, let the initial reactions die down and roll up our sleeves and make the best of it.

Coz thats what we do

 

[harpo_72]

I may be offering a jaundiced view, but you make decisions, the consequences of those decisions have to be faced. brushing them under the carpet and saying let's move only allows you to make more poor decisions. Analyse, dissect, learn and have more sympathy for those your decision has blighted. Hopefully your next decision will be more guided.

 

[Old Skier]

I may be offering a jaundiced view, but you make decisions, the consequences of those decisions have to be faced. brushing them under the carpet and saying let's move only allows you to make more poor decisions. Analyse, dissect, learn and have more sympathy for those your decision has blighted. Hopefully your next decision will be more guided.

So your opinion was the majority were wrong the day after the decision. You have nothing but your own opinion to base this on.

Perhaps, just perhaps, you might be wrong.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

maybe more of the "youf" shouldve got off their backsides and voted if the issue affects them so much more than the rest of us rather than doing nothing then moaning about the result when it doesnt go there way?

I have a feeling that the young British citizens will be getting off their backsides in quite a serious way this summer.

 

[Hacker Khan]

That assumes that one of them will be PM...Ain't necessarily so.
May could get in and throw the whole thing out...shed probably gain a lot of support judging by the gloom and doom going round.
Could be a great vote winner.....

Well she could. But even then the conservative party would lose all credibility and be seen not to be trusted. They could possibly get away with it as Labour is such a mess at the moment. But if they conservatives did renege on it, all Labour would need to do is get David Milliband back, make him leader, hence beginning to regain the trust of the disaffected northerners who have migrated (oh the irony to use that word) to UKIP and voted out, and hey presto, electoral success.

Millbank, you can have that one free, you're welcome.

 

[Old Skier]

I have a feeling that the young British citizens will be getting off their backsides in quite a serious way this summer.

Doubt if too many of them will be willing to get out of bed.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Nicola Sturgeon to make a statement on STV at 11.30am.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Doubt if too many of them will be willing to get out of bed.

Very, very lazy generalisation.

This generation of kids are brilliant.
It is a pity they have to cope with such a greedy skewed older generation.

 

[SocketRocket]

I may be offering a jaundiced view, but you make decisions, the consequences of those decisions have to be faced. brushing them under the carpet and saying let's move only allows you to make more poor decisions. Analyse, dissect, learn and have more sympathy for those your decision has blighted. Hopefully your next decision will be more guided.

Correct.

Just calm down and let the dust settle before talking everything down and helping to create ageist divisions.

 

[SocketRocket]

Very, very lazy generalisation.

This generation of kids are brilliant.
It is a pity they have to cope with such a greedy skewed older generation.

I guess you include yourself in that. People like you who are spreading jaundiced views like that need to take a serious look at themselves.

 

[Hobbit]

I may be offering a jaundiced view, but you make decisions, the consequences of those decisions have to be faced. brushing them under the carpet and saying let's move only allows you to make more poor decisions. Analyse, dissect, learn and have more sympathy for those your decision has blighted. Hopefully your next decision will be more guided.

What decision did I make that has blighted others? I voted Remain.

As for my own choices being brushed under the carpet; I think I have some very difficult decisions to make, and sitting in the corner wailing won't get them done.

Part of yesterday was spent analysing a lot of info about non-EU citizens living in Spain. And professionally, talking to my 3 counter-parts in Europe to ensure the UK arm of our oil & gas business doesn't suffer too much. Then talking to all my staff and reassuring them that I'm fully committed to keeping our Aberdeen office open.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I think it's great that the British nation has risen up and shown that we will not be governed by an unelected elite in Brussels, out of touch with the needs of the man on the street. We have shown them that it is time to reclaim out great land, to tell johnny foreigner to sod off and to show we do don't believe all the so called experts. We can govern ourselves, we can bring the good times back and we can put the great back into Great Britain.

Or put another way, we've transferred power 4 places down the line from left to right.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Well the day after it doesn't feel any better. I'm still angry at the vote and, dare I say it, I'm ashamed of my country today. Such a small minded, insular, backwards little tinpot nation.

It isn't over until article 50 is invoked, negotiations are complete and we are gone. Looks like there might be a general election before then and I'd expect this travesty to be the main issue. Any party running on a "let's stay after all" platform would attract a lot of support. There will certainly be plenty of debate between then and now.

Irony is I have no doubt that we'll be back in the EU one day. Maybe decades away, who knows, but this time we'll do so on a much more equal footing without all the special treatment and opt outs we've enjoyed until now.

 

[vkurup]

What decision did I make that has blighted others? I voted Remain.

As for my own choices being brushed under the carpet; I think I have some very difficult decisions to make, and sitting in the corner wailing won't get them done.

Part of yesterday was spent analysing a lot of info about non-EU citizens living in Spain. And professionally, talking to my 3 counter-parts in Europe to ensure the UK arm of our oil & gas business doesn't suffer too much. Then talking to all my staff and reassuring them that I'm fully committed to keeping our Aberdeen office open.

Same here... We r London HQed but our focus of our growth is Europe. Great plans to grow and recruit in the UK. these r highly skilled and high paying jobs (70K+ jobs). My bosses bosses boss is based in Germany and you can sense which way we will have to go. Any suggestions on how we 'man up' and protect these jobs including mine? Our taxes feed a lot of British benefits seekers - irrespective of how they voted - should they also man up?
Sorry if I sound bitter but I find hard done by folks who voted 'Leave' because they wanted to send a message but did not really wanted to leave. Also those who bought into the dream of the 350m and low immigration which have both being debunked.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I think it's great that the British nation has risen up and shown that we will not be governed by an unelected elite in Brussels, out of touch with the needs of the man on the street. We have shown them that it is time to reclaim out great land, to tell johnny foreigner to sod off and to show we do don't believe all the so called experts. We can govern ourselves, we can bring the good times back and we can put the great back into Great Britain.

Or put another way, we've transferred power 4 places down the line from left to right.

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The two bounders on the right are improperly dressed

 

[Imurg]

Has anyone seen or heard from our illustrious Chancellor recently...?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Has anyone seen or heard from our illustrious Chancellor recently...?

He has been locked away in the same box as IDS.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Has anyone seen or heard from our illustrious Chancellor recently...?

Nope, but I'm sure there is a small part of him that is dying to say 'Told you the economy would go to %$"£'

 

[Hacker Khan]

On a serious point I think this is a fine article looking at the reason why people voted as they did.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ain-brexit-money-class-inequality-westminster