FairwayDodger
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Nope, but I'm sure there is a small part of him that is dying to say 'Told you the economy would go to %$"£'
Like a monkey with a typewriter he had to get something right eventually.
EU Referendum
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Like a monkey with a typewriter he had to get something right eventually.
SocketRocket
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Give it a break. Put up or push off, we want people with a bit of backbone and belief in this country now. I don't believe you are the slightest bit sorry for sounding bitter, if you love this country then grow a pair and start doing something positive, if you don't then maybe consider going somewhere else but spare us the bleeding heart.
Old Skier
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I presume you are including yourself in that statement.
I agree it is a lazy generalisation but the figures show that the younger generation failed to appear in the numbers they had and along with the below average turnout in Scotland and NI the result might have been different.
Funny that the remainers on here blame the people that voted and hasn't turned their sense of injustice on those nearly 13 million registered voters that failed to turn out.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Actually age was not one of the the major correlation on how people voted, it was education, as this from the FT indicates.
Out of more than 100 key social characteristics, the percentage of people with a degree was the most strongly associated with the share of voters who voted Remain. Unsurprisingly, the proportion of people in jobs classified as “professional occupations†— generally requiring a degree equivalent qualification — was the next strongest.
In the recent London Mayoral Election, we carried out a similar analysis and found that areas where many people did not hold a passport — indicating they would not have been abroad recently — tended to yield high votes for the far-right Britain First party.
The same pattern emerges here. After education and occupation, the share of people not holding a passport was the next most strongly correlated characteristic with the Leave vote. It may simply be a statistical quirk that sees the same statistic emerge as a strong indicator of both support for Britain First and the Leave campaign, but it may also be that we’re seeing proxy evidence of the nationalist theme that has been identified in some of Leave’s campaigning.
These three are by some way the strongest associations with the pattern of the result across the country, but two more patterns are also worth mentioning. First, earnings. Before the vote several polls identified a common finding: people intending to vote Leave were much more likely than Remain voters to say they felt Britain’s economy was either stagnant or in decline.
This speaks to the widening rift in British society that many have touted as one of the key shifts that prepared the ground for Brexit. Earnings data shows that there may be some truth in this: areas with higher median incomes tended to lean Remain, whilst lower incomes leaned Leave.
And finally, age. The generational divide on Brexit has been common knowledge throughout the campaign, and is apparent in the demographic data, even if only weakly. Had turnout been higher among younger people its influence would have been even greater, but as is usually the case, there was a slight general trend for turnout to increase in line with average age.
Out of more than 100 key social characteristics, the percentage of people with a degree was the most strongly associated with the share of voters who voted Remain. Unsurprisingly, the proportion of people in jobs classified as “professional occupations†— generally requiring a degree equivalent qualification — was the next strongest.
In the recent London Mayoral Election, we carried out a similar analysis and found that areas where many people did not hold a passport — indicating they would not have been abroad recently — tended to yield high votes for the far-right Britain First party.
The same pattern emerges here. After education and occupation, the share of people not holding a passport was the next most strongly correlated characteristic with the Leave vote. It may simply be a statistical quirk that sees the same statistic emerge as a strong indicator of both support for Britain First and the Leave campaign, but it may also be that we’re seeing proxy evidence of the nationalist theme that has been identified in some of Leave’s campaigning.
These three are by some way the strongest associations with the pattern of the result across the country, but two more patterns are also worth mentioning. First, earnings. Before the vote several polls identified a common finding: people intending to vote Leave were much more likely than Remain voters to say they felt Britain’s economy was either stagnant or in decline.
This speaks to the widening rift in British society that many have touted as one of the key shifts that prepared the ground for Brexit. Earnings data shows that there may be some truth in this: areas with higher median incomes tended to lean Remain, whilst lower incomes leaned Leave.
And finally, age. The generational divide on Brexit has been common knowledge throughout the campaign, and is apparent in the demographic data, even if only weakly. Had turnout been higher among younger people its influence would have been even greater, but as is usually the case, there was a slight general trend for turnout to increase in line with average age.
Old Skier
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Doon frae Troon
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If everyone who did not vote in NI and Scotland voted Remain it would not have changed the result, so no it would not have been difference.
keep digging:lol:
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vkurup
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When the team lose their jobs, I shall print this out and give them and tell them to grow a pair .. I will leave your name in so they know the source.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I'm also not overly loving this country at the moment, and was thinking of 'going somewhere else', possibly Europe. But we buggered up that option now.....
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
My point was that instead of power being regained from the 'unelected elite in the EU', power has really just been transferred from one old Etonian to another. And your point in relation to Brexit is???
I'd say that's about right. My Facebook is full of uni students and recent leavers complaining about their current debt having not contributed to society yet. For every teacher or Doctor university yields, there's a drop out at Tesco......
i think the key word is education, not intellect which appears missed by my friends. Far too many appear to think that as they've studied longer than others they're opinion is more based in fact than it actually is.
Heres as a question to the people wanting the 2nd referendum. Why weren't stipulations put in before the first one? I'd hazard it was because they had no conviction in them getting anywhere near a 60/40 win and didn't want to give the leavers a 2nd chance.
A a vote was taken. You may not want to roll over, but that is what democracy is.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
You left out the under 30s. Are you saying that is the 12 million odd who were registered to vote and didn't would not have made a difference. I apreaciate my maths aren't great but that takes the biscuit.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
It appears Scotland have left the UK and joined the EU. Must have missed that on Google .
Old Skier
Tour Winner
None in the same way as yours.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Your going to start believing everything you Google at this rate :lol:
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I'd agree with that. But I'd also say that one thing that is drilled into you at university is to examine any subject from both sides and look and use fact based conclusions that stand up to scrutiny and questioning. So that is why university students may think they have come to a logical fact based conclusion on which way to vote. And non university educated people did not and relied more on other reasons.
I would not dare endorse or condem that opinion, just saying that is one possible reason.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Don't think I ever claimed it was mostly down to age on its own. I waited for the facts from other sources before I regurgitated them as my own in an attempt to look clever. As all the best university educated people do.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Totally lost me there, what has 12 million under 30's got do do with NI and Scots voters.
Have you any idea how many voters there are in Scotland and NI?
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