chrisd
Major Champion
Absolute load of twaddle!
EU Referendum
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Absolute load of twaddle!
SocketRocket
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Total bunkum. Scottish people voted as part of the UK not for Scotland. It's pathetic to say that they voted to stay in the EU as a Nation so the referendum result doesn't count for them. It's a very childish and unreasonable way to view the result.
You do realise that Sturgeon has no constitutional right to call another referendum on independence, this can only be authorised by the Westminster Parliament. The last referendum was a once in a generation call and that was made quite clear to the electorate. My bet is that no matter how many toys she throws there will not be another.
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You've just underlined what I always thought, your a prize 1 class A knob 😂😂
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
:thup:
I see there have been unruly demonstrations in London, For years and years the media and govenment and left wing have laid blame on the right wing for any trouble and protests, well now we are begining to see the leftwings true colours when things go against them ,as well as recent anti fasist members attacking peaceful protests and events which had nothing to do with politics ....the real british people are waking up to your lies ...its you that are the real nazis😜
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Hacker Khan
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I thought it was a decent article myself.
Doon frae Troon
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User20205
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Yes it was. It's a nonsense complaining about the Scottish desire to determine their own future, set against the backdrop of recent events
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I see the National Front had woken up from whatever hole the inhabit
Why does everyone who voted they interview keep talking as if England has just voted to go alone ?
Some part of me has a feeling that some voted because they possibly knew that there would be a split between the countries as well.
As well as possibly leaving EU it is possibly the start of tearing the UK apart - the United part has certainly gone right now.
Why does everyone who voted they interview keep talking as if England has just voted to go alone ?
Some part of me has a feeling that some voted because they possibly knew that there would be a split between the countries as well.
As well as possibly leaving EU it is possibly the start of tearing the UK apart - the United part has certainly gone right now.
Not angry or agitated so you can do one!
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
What they should have done is hire a footy stadium, fit it out with hundreds of counting stations and had all ballot boxes delivered to it.
Once all boxes were there - and it would only have taken a few hours - then start counting.
That way there would be no knowledge of how specific areas voted.
The relevance of who/where voted what is limited.
The count may have taken 2 days but so what?
It's the final numbers that matter not that a majority of people in "X" voted one way or the other.
Once all boxes were there - and it would only have taken a few hours - then start counting.
That way there would be no knowledge of how specific areas voted.
The relevance of who/where voted what is limited.
The count may have taken 2 days but so what?
It's the final numbers that matter not that a majority of people in "X" voted one way or the other.
chrisd
Major Champion
Let's not have a reasoned argument at this stage!
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I know, the Mail, Express, Telegraph, Times and Sun never shut up about it.
As for calling left wingers Nazis then I'd suggest you've been spending too long on that whack job conspiracy Web site you linked to the other day. Not very clever invoking people who murdered millions really.
bluewolf
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This has now turned into a thread full of whinging losers and smug winners. If this thread is anything to go by, then there's no way we can pull together for long enough to make a success of going it on our own.
How about about we start discussing how we can start making a positive change, rather than throwing the insults around?
How about about we start discussing how we can start making a positive change, rather than throwing the insults around?
Hmm, and Corbyns mates McGuiness & Adams don't have "British" blood on their hands🤔
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What does that have to do with the EU Referendum
Bluewolf is right - thread is just agressive , full of insults , smugness and whinging
The Nation has no hope at the moment
USER1999
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No hope? Really? We are one day after the decision. One day. There could be two years before any real changes. No hope?
drdel
Tour Rookie
Aristotle wrote hundreds of years ago that leaders should "not give power to the soldiers".
Cameron sought the populist route by offering a Referendum on a subject the 'soldiers' knew now't about. This was his first mistake.
His second was not negotiating a strong deal with the EU, so the case for staying became undermined.
His third was to let rhetoric get in the way of a sensible campaign an so the 'popular' have a go mentality got traction.
The Referendum should never have happened, it has - now we need to put our best brains behind making a success of the bed our democracy has made.
Cameron sought the populist route by offering a Referendum on a subject the 'soldiers' knew now't about. This was his first mistake.
His second was not negotiating a strong deal with the EU, so the case for staying became undermined.
His third was to let rhetoric get in the way of a sensible campaign an so the 'popular' have a go mentality got traction.
The Referendum should never have happened, it has - now we need to put our best brains behind making a success of the bed our democracy has made.
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Please take it in the context it was meant - exactly like Bluewolf says - if the current attitude and reaction is a marker same with this thread then yes as United Kingdom with have no hope of getting it to work.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
Cameron had no chance of getting a strong deal with the EU. It was partly the EU 's response that has caused the current situation. Back then, they didn't take it seriously. Well, that was a mistake. It wasn't Cameron fault, but if the EU had given him anything to use, rather than sending him home with his tail between his legs, maybe, just maybe, the vote would have been different.
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