EU Referendum

[Deleted member 15344]

I also feel that we'll end up staying in.. I don't think that the majority of the population actually want "OUT". I was speaking to staunch Leave voters last night in work.. Almost all of them were feeling some level of regret about the vote.. I can't really put my finger on why as they all appeared to have different reasons.. It's been such a strange few days...

I'm more than comfortable with my vote and my opinions. However, if we do actually leave, then I genuinely hope that I'm wrong.. I'd love for us to become a truly independent economic powerhouse.. I'd love for us to evolve our economic policies to be more equitable and fair. I'd love it if the Union progressed together to become stronger and fairer...

I was just about to post this link and ask if it's something that is happening over the country

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...516.html?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email

Have people voted without truely thinking and searching out the facts and searching out the facts ?

Beyond the obvious chest thumping St George flag wearing nationalists that you see enjoy the "action" in France I think a lot may be showing regret alongside people who are worried and people who are excited about the future - i reckon that if they had the vote again now the result would be different

 

[Fish]

Labour could quite easily turn this situation into a vote winner.. A brief Leadership fight, followed by the appointment of a real political heavyweight as leader.. If the Tories turn this into a 3 or 4 way fight then Labour could quite easily gain ground..

I think too many labour stronghold areas voted out for them to rise like Phoenix. Now if the real Millaband came back......🤔

 

[MegaSteve]

Thus far only 1.5M have signed up for a re-vote....

#embarrassing

Don't really believe the 'experts' that are saying the majority of exiters are regretting the way they voted...

Still believing the political classes will find a way of wriggling out of exit...

#listentothepeople

 

[Papas1982]

I was just about to post this link and ask if it's something that is happening over the country

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...516.html?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email

Have people voted without truely thinking and searching out the facts and searching out the facts ?

Beyond the obvious chest thumping St George flag wearing nationalists that you see enjoy the "action" in France I think a lot may be showing regret alongside people who are worried and people who are excited about the future - i reckon that if they had the vote again now the result would be different

ive no regrets and don't fit that criteria. The constant suggestion that to want out makes you some sort of trouble making vagrant is getting tiresome.

 

[SocketRocket]

As I hear and understand.. all 27 have to agree WITHIN the 2 yr window. If you don't get an agreement in that timeframe then you are automatically out WITHOUT a deal. Then you start negotiating as an regular outsider.. say how a Saudi Arabia, Malaysia or India would negotiate with the EU block

Countries outside the EU seem to do quite well. There are very many countries that trade with the EU tariff free that don't contribute to the EU and don't have free movement of people arrangements. The EU market is not some kind of lush walled garden that only EU members hold a special key to enter. People keep throwing out worse case scenarios which would be very unlikely and even in that event not disastrous.

 

[Imurg]

Have people voted without truely thinking and searching out the facts and searching out the facts ?

Absolutely - by the million.
Mainly because both campaigns concentrated on slagging each other off rather than dealing in facts - of which there were actually very few.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

ive no regrets and don't fit that criteria. The constant suggestion that to want out makes you some sort of trouble making vagrant is getting tiresome.

I didn't suggest anything of the sort

 

[SocketRocket]

I was just about to post this link and ask if it's something that is happening over the country

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...516.html?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email

Have people voted without truely thinking and searching out the facts and searching out the facts ?

Beyond the obvious chest thumping St George flag wearing nationalists that you see enjoy the "action" in France I think a lot may be showing regret alongside people who are worried and people who are excited about the future - i reckon that if they had the vote again now the result would be different

Yesterday, You were telling us to stop the in fighting, accept the outcome and make the best of it. Now your doing the opposite.


Make your mind up

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yesterday, You were telling us to stop the in fighting, accept the outcome and make the best of it. Now your doing the opposite.


Make your mind up

How exactly am I doing the opposite ?

I have accepted the vote and will make the best of it and work my damn hardest to ensure I do my bit - nowhere in my post have I suggested anything different.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Have people voted without truely thinking and searching out the facts and searching out the facts ?

Absolutely - by the million.
Mainly because both campaigns concentrated on slagging each other off rather than dealing in facts - of which there were actually very few.

I'd be willing to bet that there were millions of people that voted to remain that weren't clued up on what they were actually voting for and don't understand the situation.

I spoke to several people who said they got to the voting station and voted to remain because they didn't kno what else to do.

Ignorance and poor education on the subject works both ways.

 

[Papas1982]

I didn't suggest anything of the sort

You said, a lot, other than the vagrants in France may be regretting it.

Ergo, to be an out voter and still have the courage of your convitictions a fair few would need to be exactly what you implied.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You said, a lot, other than the vagrants in France may be regretting it.

Ergo, to be an out voter and still have the courage of your convitictions a fair few would need to be exactly what you implied.

Did you read the whole of the post or just bits that enable you to put 2 and 2 together to get 5

I'll say it again

A lot maybe regretting their vote "Alongside others that are worried and others that are "excited about the future"

So going by my statement and what you say I would put you in the "excited about the future" bracket - is that right ?

It seems now the campaign has finished people still want to find a way to be offended and attach it to the way they voted.

 

[Old Skier]

How exactly am I doing the opposite ?

I have accepted the vote and will make the best of it and work my damn hardest to ensure I do my bit - nowhere in my post have I suggested anything different.

I can assure you that those I know who voted out have no regrets and it would take a very brave politician to ignore what has just happened.

The political class have shown their arrogance and complete disregard of the public for to long. Parliament should have been sitting during the whole of this weekend ready to deal with whatever the vote threw up.

I don't like what the SNP stand for but at least they were in a position to react.

If call me Dave wants to go he should go now, those responsible for selecting the candidates to take his place should do it next week and the final vote should take place by the end of July.

Job Jobbed.

 

[Papas1982]

Did you read the whole of the post or just bits that enable you to put 2 and 2 together to get 5

I'll say it again

A lot maybe regretting their vote "Alongside others that are worried and others that are "excited about the future"

So going by my statement and what you say I would put you in the "excited about the future" bracket - is that right ?

It seems now the campaign has finished people still want to find a way to be offended and attach it to the way they voted.

im not trying to be offended. And it wasn't a personal dig, but it is something commonly seen that out voters are portrayed as the people you mention in France. Been as 17m voted out, I'd be curious the apparent configuration of the vote. Ie, how many make up the "lot" that regret it, the vagrants and the excited.

Me personally, I think very little will change. I think that as a nation our buying power will mean that whilst countries may try and set an example. If we knock on Frances door and say so and so from America has agreed to supply all our goods that you used, would you like to counter offer. They will.
First and foremost the Eu was set up as a business model and whilst it's landscape has changed massively, countries won't want to lose out on the money we spend with them.

Immigration isn't so important to me. I don't think we should stop it, but should follow a successful model where only those that contribute are accepted. I would like to think that if that model was adopted, in time the people willing to sit on their arses because working doesn't benefit them enough would be forced into work or face tougher financial times.

 

[Tarkus1212]

Now that the UK has its independence what is the point of UKIP anymore?

 

[MegaSteve]

Now that the UK has its independence what is the point of UKIP anymore?

None...

But Nige was already re-inventing himself as an on-line internet party...

It's the way forward apparently...

 

[SocketRocket]

Now that the UK has its independence what is the point of UKIP anymore?

We don't have it yet

 

[shagster]

now the electorate have spoke, we must exit europe asap
the tories must elect a new leader, now , but i believe that if any party changes leaders during a term of office, there should be a general election
i cant wait for the £390 odd million a week to be spent on the NHS, that should cut the waiting lists, but i wont hold my breath
and if the pleb boris is elected, we will wish we were back in the EU

 

[SocketRocket]

now the electorate have spoke, we must exit europe asap
the tories must elect a new leader, now , but i believe that if any party changes leaders during a term of office, there should be a general election
i cant wait for the £390 odd million a week to be spent on the NHS, that should cut the waiting lists, but i wont hold my breath
and if the pleb boris is elected, we will wish we were back in the EU

A General Election now would take some time and hold up the start of exit discussions, I would also say that the last thing the country needs to go through right now is another round of political mud slinging.

 

[Slime]

I've just spent a couple of hours reading through this thread.
Some posts I find interesting, some I find laughable and some are just petty.
Emotions are still running very high, but it's still less than 48hours since the result was declared.
In this short time I've been called a racist ****, an idiot, a little Englander and one or two other pathetic things.
I find this very sad as I totally respect the opinions of all the voters I've spoken to, which ever side of the camp they represent.
Can't people just accept that not everyone will necesarily agree with them?
The cloth has been cut .................. can we not, as a nation, just somehow work together to make this work?