EU Referendum

[Deleted member 15344]

Just tells you something about someone who has has such knowledge of the media output of such radical organisations.

They are either part of the radical group (am not suggesting the poster is) or they use these kind of outputs to stir up tension and argument amongst those who don't give a tosh about such organisations be they left or right wing.

All those accusations are typical of someone attempting to ignore the content of what can be seen on social media

 

[Lump]

You can find the good and bad in any choice, it all depends how blinkered you are. Inciting fear and hatred into people appears to the aim of the remain voters. It was a democratic vote, one side was always going to loose. Another referendum is not going to happen, no matter how many petitions are created, riots started, rumours created and hatreds sown.
We need to stop what we are currently doing as a nation to each other, we are not going to burn as a nation. There was always going to be hard choices ahead, for the greater good or opposite.
2 days after one of the biggest votes in the UK's history is not the time to be fighting.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The exit plan requires a two year set of negotiations, how can anyone believe the outcome can be set out before they start. Turn off twitter and facebook and turn your common sense on rather than reacting like an exited school kid.

So people went into a referendum without knowing what to do next if the result went in their favour

So the future of the nation is in the hands of people who clearly couldn't be more ill prepared

Surely they had something in place to move forward with when the results were announced ? Something planned to help them deliver the promises they made ? ( well apart from the ones that they have admitted already were lies )

Maybe they actually thought they didn't have a chance of winning but reality has hit in now and the pants have firmly been caught down

 

[Old Skier]

All those accusations are typical of someone attempting to ignore the content of what can be seen on social media

What you cannot accept is its the Internet and most of its not real.

Yesterday you wanted, quite rightly, for everyone to accept the will of the majority and to join together and work together.

Since then you have gone out of your way with others to make leavers appear racist, to old to know what's best for the country or educationally sub normal.

Why go looking for extremes on the Internet.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You can find the good and bad in any choice, it all depends how blinkered you are. Inciting fear and hatred into people appears to the aim of the remain voters. It was a democratic vote, one side was always going to loose. Another referendum is not going to happen, no matter how many petitions are created, riots started, rumours created and hatreds sown.
We need to stop what we are currently doing as a nation to each other, we are not going to burn as a nation. There was always going to be hard choices ahead, for the greater good or opposite.
2 days after one of the biggest votes in the UK's history is not the time to be fighting.

I think it's clear that inciting hatred isn't the sole possession of any side

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What you cannot accept is its the Internet and most of its not real.

Yesterday you wanted, quite rightly, for everyone to accept the will of the majority and to join together and work together.

Since then you have gone out of your way with others to make leavers appear racist, to old to know what's best for the country or educationally sub normal.

Why go looking for extremes on the Internet.

Is everything on the internet not real then ?

Were the pictures I posted fake then ? Or is it just easier to dismiss then as "not real" - the Internet is the biggest news outlet in the world and its live and real time without having to wait for the next day - a great deal of it is the truth about what is going on. Dismissing it saying "most is not real " is false

I haven't accused "leavers of being racist" nor have I made anything suggestions in regards being old or about someone education - please do not throw false accusations.

I didn't need to go looking for extremes - they are all over the place

 

[Hobbit]

Is everything on the internet not real then ?

Were the pictures I posted fake then ? Or is it just easier to dismiss then as "not real" - the Internet is the biggest news outlet in the world and its live and real time without having to wait for the next day - a great deal of it is the truth about what is going on. Dismissing it saying "most is not real " is false

I haven't accused "leavers of being racist" nor have I made anything suggestions in regards being old or about someone education - please do not throw false accusations.

I didn't need to go looking for extremes - they are all over the place

i don't doubt the pictures and the diatribe is real but I would question the number people indulging in it. Can you imagine it being the majority, because I can't?

 

[Old Skier]

Is everything on the internet not real then ?

Were the pictures I posted fake then ? Or is it just easier to dismiss then as "not real" - the Internet is the biggest news outlet in the world and its live and real time without having to wait for the next day - a great deal of it is the truth about what is going on. Dismissing it saying "most is not real " is false

I haven't accused "leavers of being racist" nor have I made anything suggestions in regards being old or about someone education - please do not throw false accusations.

I didn't need to go looking for extremes - they are all over the place

You are the one copying and pasting anything you can google that puts everyone who voted out in a bad light.

Can you vouch for the authenticity of everything you have posted.

Presume you have yet to find the bit where a prominent member of the remain campaign admitted to the lies that his side was sprouting all through the campaign.

Both sides were guilty but it seems you can only accept the bad deeds of the leave.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You are the one copying and pasting anything you can google that puts everyone who voted out in a bad light.

Nothing has come from "Google" - it's an old trotted out line to help people ignore what has been said

Nor have I ever suggested "everyone" at any stage

Can you vouch for the authenticity of everything you have posted.

When someone posts a video of someone talking then yes I accept its authenticity - same with pictures and reports from more than one person

Presume you have yet to find the bit where a prominent member of the remain campaign admitted to the lies that his side was sprouting all through the campaign.

Was the Farage interview on GMB about the £350 mil and NHS not enough then ?

Both sides were guilty but it seems you can only accept the bad deeds of the leave.

I know full well both sides had issues

And Honbit it's not the majority on any side but can see it growing over the next couple of weeks - certainly can see things getting worse

 

[Old Skier]

And Honbit it's not the majority on any side but can see it growing over the next couple of weeks - certainly can see things getting worse

Do you accept the vote, if so why do you keep chucking logs on the fire.

 

[SocketRocket]

So people went into a referendum without knowing what to do next if the result went in their favour

So the future of the nation is in the hands of people who clearly couldn't be more ill prepared

Surely they had something in place to move forward with when the results were announced ? Something planned to help them deliver the promises they made ? ( well apart from the ones that they have admitted already were lies )

Maybe they actually thought they didn't have a chance of winning but reality has hit in now and the pants have firmly been caught down

A day ago you suggested that we should accept the will of the people and that you would do your bit to make things work, now you are just stirring up descent. Difficult to take you seriously.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

A day ago you suggested that we should accept the will of the people and that you would do your bit to make things work, now you are just stirring up descent. Difficult to take you seriously.

Do you accept the vote, if so why do you keep chucking logs on the fire.

Because quite clearly things are coming out into the media that shed lights on things and add to the debate

See many posts from people - "just because we voted leave doesn't mean we are racist " so I posted some pictures of racist behaviour from some people that did vote leave to highlight issues that are happening and why people are falsely throwing suggestions around

Plus there are reports coming out that the Leave campaign had zero plans in place for what happened if they won the vote - it appears they prob expected the PM to deal with it but he has washed his hands with it - masterstroke it appears

Now away from the forum I get on with my life - I'm not part of any petition etc etc - I'm posting on a golf forum what affect do you really think posting a few things from the media is really going to have ?

But what is clear is that the pair of you are just deflecting away from the actual content of what I posted - but I'll leave you pair to it and expect that the road ahead isn't going to get smoother

 

[bobmac]

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The most sensible thing on this whole thread, thank you Smiffy.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

For those that voted remain - if the remain vote had won would you have expected the same level of backlash from the leave supporters ?

What I mean by this is the constant barrage of vile accusations, hatred and abhorrence showed towards those that chose to vote in a way that they were entitled to. No matter what their reasons. It was their right.

I'm truely shocked and appalled by the social media fallout of this vote..... calling people's integrity and education into question simply because they didn't the answer they wanted.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

For those that voted remain - if the remain vote had won would you have expected the same level of backlash from the leave supporters ?

What I mean by this is the constant barrage of vile accusations, hatred and abhorrence showed towards those that chose to vote in a way that they were entitled to. No matter what their reasons. It was their right.

I'm truely shocked and appalled by the social media fallout of this vote..... calling people's integrity and education into question simply because they didn't the answer they wanted.

The reaction would have been the same which ever way the result happened

Already seen accusations of people being scared because they voted remain and people being called traitors because they voted remain

The reaction and insults from the minority will always appear because let's be honest the people that are attacking the leave voters are the minority

It was a vote that clearly was going to divide the UK and that's exactly what has happened - that doesn't repair overnight

It's looking like its a vote that possibly shouldn't have been given to the public IMO because of this reaction and the after affect it is having and will continue to have

 

[palindromicbob]

Before the referendum:
The leave campaign is full of hatred, bile and bullying.

After the Referendum.

Let's use hatred, bile and bullying to get the result changed.

 

[Fyldewhite]

Nobody is suggesting that all people who voted leave are racists.

For sure though, every single racist (open and closet) in this country voted leave. Unfortunately this means that the result of the vote has given every one of them the illusion that their views are widespread, legitimate and supported by the majority. Not a great situation......but it was quite obvious this would happen. Dark days ahead I feel.

 

[MegaSteve]

Just endorses my view of those that live their lives out on social media...

Rather than seek out or try and understand why folk voted in the manner they did...
They'd sooner just take the easy route and dish out some casual 'isms...

Politicians need to start listening and acting on what they hear...
The electorate is not just for election day!

It should be people first business second...
Not the other way round...

 

[Old Skier]

Politicians need to start listening and acting on what they hear...
The electorate is not just for Election Day.

Quite agree however it is two sided and the electorate need to start talking to their MPs. To many think it's just a waste of time but I use mine regularly and he and the one before were always helpful and cooperative and they both knew I hated politicians.

 

[harpo_72]

The stats say Leave won, the stats say that the majority were X age group, and left school without having further education. The rascist stuff is coming elsewhere, not sure whether it is linked unless the stats point towards certain groups.
But seriously if Leave had not won we would have had this perpetual question being raised. Let's leave, give them what they want.
But I for one will keep my hands in my pockets - you'll see no help from me.
"What goes around comes around" I will try and make sure that my family is set up and they come first no longer will I have any empathy for the educationally challenged, it's low wages for you and no benefits. Social housing ? Nah forget it go and earn the money to raise the deposit. Hospitals yup I'll pay. Cornwall no chance - silly pasties!