England

[Dodger]

The opinion of some that the likes of Sturridge, Baines, Henderson etc are great players is truly baffling.

These guys are just everyday footballers and there are dozens like them the world over. They are not as good as some appear to believe and this inflated opinion comes from the belief from many that the EPL is the world holy grail.

How many of the squad would make it into a world 22 squad??

None,not 1.

 

[Hobbit]

The opinion of some that the likes of Sturridge, Baines, Henderson etc are great players is truly baffling.

These guys are just everyday footballers and there are dozens like them the world over. They are not as good as some appear to believe and this inflated opinion comes from the belief from many that the EPL is the world holy grail.

How many of the squad would make it into a world 22 squad??

None,not 1.

I need my meds increasing! I can't believe I agree with the best fisherman on here.

 

[chrisd]

The opinion of some that the likes of Sturridge, Baines, Henderson etc are great players is truly baffling.

These guys are just everyday footballers and there are dozens like them the world over. They are not as good as some appear to believe and this inflated opinion comes from the belief from many that the EPL is the world holy grail.

How many of the squad would make it into a world 22 squad??

None,not 1.

Sadly the truth I'm afraid!

 

[MegaSteve]

The opinion of some that the likes of Sturridge, Baines, Henderson etc are great players is truly baffling.

These guys are just everyday footballers and there are dozens like them the world over. They are not as good as some appear to believe and this inflated opinion comes from the belief from many that the EPL is the world holy grail.

How many of the squad would make it into a world 22 squad??

None,not 1.

I need my meds increasing! I can't believe I agree with the best fisherman on here.

Sadly the truth I'm afraid!

Well, you are in good company Joey Barton has recently said more or less the same....

 

[Imurg]

Well, you are in good company Joey Barton has recently said more or less the same....

It must be true then........!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The opinion of some that the likes of Sturridge, Baines, Henderson etc are great players is truly baffling.

These guys are just everyday footballers and there are dozens like them the world over. They are not as good as some appear to believe and this inflated opinion comes from the belief from many that the EPL is the world holy grail.

How many of the squad would make it into a world 22 squad??

None,not 1.

Good point and while we only have 32% of English players plying their trade in the PL the situation will only get worse. There are some decent players coming through like Barkley but I can't see England producing a competitive side soon. The likes of Sterling and Sturridge have the potential to progress but where are the others coming through and more importantly where is the strength in depth of a Germany, Italy, Argentina etc

 

[bozza]

So after out poor World Cup display Rooney and Hart face the press today.

Where's the Captain at!?

If you're captain of your club/country you are the voice of the team and should attend all press conferences.

That just sums Gerrard up, hiding when it all goes wrong.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So after out poor World Cup display Rooney and Hart face the press today.

Where's the Captain at!?

If you're captain of your club/country you are the voice of the team and should attend all press conferences.

That just sums Gerrard up, hiding when it all goes wrong.

So now he is getting stick for not going to a press conference ?!? Whatever next

The players take it in turns to go to the press conferences - Gerrard and Lallana were at the last one and Gerrard faced the press after the game the other night.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The opinion of some that the likes of Sturridge, Baines, Henderson etc are great players is truly baffling.

These guys are just everyday footballers and there are dozens like them the world over. They are not as good as some appear to believe and this inflated opinion comes from the belief from many that the EPL is the world holy grail.

How many of the squad would make it into a world 22 squad??

None,not 1.

Who has been calling them "great" players ?

 

[19thagain]

Well, for what it is worth Roy has a big decision to make .... window or aisle seat!

 

[bozza]

So now he is getting stick for not going to a press conference ?!? Whatever next

The players take it in turns to go to the press conferences - Gerrard and Lallana were at the last one and Gerrard faced the press after the game the other night.

If I'm not mistaken Jags was the first player in the firing line after the Uruguay game?

He's just been very quiet since our defeat on Thursday.

He's happy to take the plaudits when it's going well but sticks his head in the sand when it hits the fan.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

So after out poor World Cup display Rooney and Hart face the press today.

Where's the Captain at!?

If you're captain of your club/country you are the voice of the team and should attend all press conferences.

That just sums Gerrard up, hiding when it all goes wrong.

Doing a press conference today with the manager. Rumour on Sky was that he is going to tell us about his future with England but that may be rubbish. The press don't want the same people in the PCs all the time.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If I'm not mistaken Jags was the first player in the firing line after the Uruguay game?

He's just been very quiet since our defeat on Thursday.

He's happy to take the plaudits when it's going well but sticks his head in the sand when it hits the fan.

Sorry but this is getting pathetic - he spoke to the cameras straight.

What else did you want him or any one else to do ?!

Yes Gerrard didn't play well - would you like him executed ?

Is Gerrard the first person to have a poor game for England ? Are the effigies of him being made already.

 

[Foxholer]

I need my meds increasing! I can't believe I agree with the best fisherman on here.

Don't finish the bottle - leave some for me!

It was pretty obvious - and actually stated by many, the England's prospects in this WC were limited. The Draw didn't help either.

However, all that seems to have gone out the window when the tournament actually starts and fans seem to think that England should be semi/quarter finalists! Crazy imo!

I do think Gerrard had a couple of poor games and needs to step down as Captain. But there were signs of progress towards being 'class' players from some. England badly needs an effective defensive coach as there is so much wrong in that area! And effective defence is what wins games these days (unfortunately imo).

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Don't finish the bottle - leave some for me!

It was pretty obvious - and actually stated by many, the England's prospects in this WC were limited. The Draw didn't help either.

However, all that seems to have gone out the window when the tournament actually starts and fans seem to think that England should be semi/quarter finalists! Crazy imo!

I do think Gerrard had a couple of poor games and needs to step down as Captain. But there were signs of progress towards being 'class' players from some. England badly needs an effective defensive coach as there is so much wrong in that area! And effective defence is what wins games these days (unfortunately imo).

The irony of that comment is that one of the things Hodgson got slagged off for was being an effective defensive coach who sets up not to lose rather than try to win. He has tried in this tournament to be more attacking and it hasn't worked and he has been let down by some schoolboy defending by players who should be better. You can coach defenders all you want but if they switch off there is nothing the coach can do about it.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Sorry but this is getting pathetic - he spoke to the cameras straight.

What else did you want him or any one else to do ?!

Yes Gerrard didn't play well - would you like him executed ?

Is Gerrard the first person to have a poor game for England ? Are the effigies of him being made already.

Not executed,but he should call it a day on his international career. Pretty sure you'd be saying the same if he played for any other club.
:thup:

 

[MegaSteve]

This time around the culture of over expectation has been a figment of the imagination of the media... Seen very few cars adorned with flags and even fewer homes which was not the case previously... Went telly shopping this week... Salesman advised there'll be some bargains to be had soon as they'd sold very few in the run up to the WC which [again] has not been the case previously...

 

[Blue in Munich]

Don't finish the bottle - leave some for me!

It was pretty obvious - and actually stated by many, the England's prospects in this WC were limited. The Draw didn't help either.

However, all that seems to have gone out the window when the tournament actually starts and fans seem to think that England should be semi/quarter finalists! Crazy imo!

I do think Gerrard had a couple of poor games and needs to step down as Captain. But there were signs of progress towards being 'class' players from some. England badly needs an effective defensive coach as there is so much wrong in that area! And effective defence is what wins games these days (unfortunately imo).

Like leaving one half of the best centre half pairing in the Premiership and the best defensive left back in the country at home? Great decision by Woy & the FA. :clap:

 

[Papas1982]

Like leaving one half of the best centre half pairing in the Premiership and the best defensive left back in the country at home? Great decision by Woy & the FA. :clap:

Cole I think should have gone. JT needed to make the first move re England. He was immense last season, but there's only so many incidents you can come back from.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Cole I think should have gone. JT needed to make the first move re England. He was immense last season, but there's only so many incidents you can come back from.

I'd say that depends on how hard they are gunning for you; I can think of others who have had easier passes for what I would consider worse transgressions, but I take your point.