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..And so the party is over. Bags packed and can't get away quick enough (at final whistle)..Maybe they could get the rest of the squad to check their bags in early so there is less hanging around...Don't know what the rush is to get away. Having been to Rio and various other parts of Brazil,there is loads to do..They could start with a de-brief, and could have stayed and done a bit of good PR with locals and kids for at least a day..I guess they are in need of a 'holiday' after being there so long..You couldn't make it up..
 
Rumpokid said:
..And so the party is over. Bags packed and can't get away quick enough (at final whistle)..Maybe they could get the rest of the squad to check their bags in early so there is less hanging around...Don't know what the rush is to get away. Having been to Rio and various other parts of Brazil,there is loads to do..They could start with a de-brief, and could have stayed and done a bit of good PR with locals and kids for at least a day..I guess they are in need of a 'holiday' after being there so long..You couldn't make it up..
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I'm kind of guessing some of them may want to get back to see their families. And also they probably don't want to hang around in Brazil as they will be constantly reminded of how rubbish they were at the world cup, what with the country being obsessed with it and all that.
 
I must admit, Lampard is playing well .............................. Wilshire is not!
The defence looks pretty solid too!

Early days.


Slime.
 
Slime said:
I must admit, Lampard is playing well .............................. Wilshire is not!
The defence looks pretty solid too!

Early days.


Slime.
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I do hope sturridge continues where he left of in prem extvseason. Because on these perfromances. England need a new striker if Rooney is always ginna be in the hole.
 
dontfancythisputt said:
To chuck my hat in the ring I'm going to add to this debate that nobody is going to tell me that the likes of Columbia, costa Rica, Nigeria, Algeria, Uruguay, Ivory Coast, Ecuador and so on, are technically a better footballing team than England or that they have a better pool of players from which to pick a national team.

For me the one thing these teams have that has kept them in the completion so far and something that England have long since lost is desire...
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Yet again I will say it depends on what you mean by technical. One of England's major failings is that they are not very technically gifted when compared to a lot of nations. I heard a bit of the latest match on 5 live and Danny Mills was berating them for not offering for passes and not being confident when in possession of the ball in dangerous areas (anyone can pass it between the back 4 all day) or for wasting the final ball.

You watch an England match when someone is looking for a pass in the oppositions half and at times players run away just because there is an opposition player within 5 yards of them. Other teams do not do that as their players have the technical ability to control the ball when under a bit of pressure and find a pass to their own team without resulting to a hoof/long ball, as we do all to often in times of pressure. Most England players do not have this ability, probably because years and years of coaching has not valued that skill.

And I could argue that technically Uruguay are a better football team as they went through with 6 points and we did not with one point. Wake up, smell the coffee, we are not very good nowadays, this result was not a fluke. I agree that the future could be bright with the players we have, but as it stands we used to be a team that would lose in the quarter finals and are now a team that struggles to get out of a group in the World Cup.

I'm sure the players had a massive amount of desire to do well, but they were just not good enough.
 
Strategically we didn't use our assets, we have speed and some of our players who lack skill are disciplined. Basically the first game Rooney should have been pulled off or moved and Milner brought on to protect the left flank. In the second game no one exploited the slow central defence by playing balls over the top into space and turning it into a race ... Lamps was releasing players and they were running for him today. Wiltshere was not so good and perhaps should have been swapped, Sturridge needs to practice the first time snap shot ... Is Jag(whatever) really a first pick central defender?
 
As a non football fan (who watches tons of ice hockey, which is kinda similar) you can't win games without possession in the attacking area of the field of play (weather that's ice hockey, rugby, football etc)

And, from the 2 games I watched (because I always get drawn into the "World Cup you have to watch it" thing) England do not ever have enough possession in the opposition half, they're definitely not comfortable with the ball there

Meanwhile other teams are happy for them to kick it about in their own half as it's not pressuring them
 
Listening to Hodgson on 5 Live on the radio shows why England will never improve - you would think England qualified
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Listening to Hodgson on 5 Live on the radio shows why England will never improve - you would think England qualified
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And listening to the pundits is incredible.......positive this positive that.

What was positive??

England were a disaster who did not qualify against 3 pretty poor sides. Not one of their players can come away from that with plus points,no one shone at all.
 
Spain fail and Del Bosque offers his resignation.

Italy fail and Prandelli offers to Resign.

England fail and Hodgson gets another 2yrs :rofl:
 
Dodger said:
And listening to the pundits is incredible.......positive this positive that.

What was positive??

England were a disaster who did not qualify against 3 pretty poor sides. Not one of their players can come away from that with plus points,no one shone at all.
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2/3 teams above us in world rankings and reserves used in final game. I'm not sayin it's been great, but I don't think our performances have been as shambolic as at other tournaments.
 
A lot of WC teams play good football, but have no game changers. I think eng have game changers in Barkley and Sturridge but play v poor in possession. They need to be Engs priority imo. Its important they develop well.

Bayern showed that they dont suit tika taka or whatever. A lot of teams cant handle traditional English style crosses and set plays. These should also be a priority.
 
Papas1982 said:
2/3 teams above us in world rankings and reserves used in final game. I'm not sayin it's been great, but I don't think our performances have been as shambolic as at other tournaments.
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You really think that ?

At the very least England got out of the group and got some wins on the board.

That was the worst by an England team in history
 
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