Of course all Muslims are not Jihadists, but unfortunately a significant number of them are. We seem to have invited vipers to live in our nest! :angry:
Ed Miliband and the Labour Party
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Delc - again you will need to provide evidence to back up this statements you keep posting in regards immigrants and Muslims - it is very close to being very offensive
Foxholer
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Totally ridiculous! And indeed quite offensive! Right up (down) there with the all time daftest DelC posts!
What's your definition of 'significant number'! How does that compare with other serious criminals - murderers, rapists, peadophiles and golf cheats?
And how many of them were not born here?
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Ethan
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It isn't a cheap dig. It is a retort against a silly comment. People use this image of the potential number of migrants and whether they would fit in your town, the local football stadium, your front room or whatever as a way of making it all look dreadful and frightening.
UKIP go one step further saying that 400 million, or whatever, can now come to the UK. Perhaps, but 400 million can also go to Albania, but neither one is likely to happen.
The fact is that the UK is not full, or nearly full. OK, it is imbalanced in that parts of the south east are pretty full, but other parts of the country that could use an influx of young people of working age are far from full, in some cases desparate for people. Incentives can be put in place to attract people there. Infrastructure is actually pretty flexible and the economy will benefit from a rebalance of young working age vs older retired.
Rumpokid
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It is time Skinner was put out to grass..Being an ex coalminer from his constituency, i know enough of him to say he is losing/lost the plot...Him and wedgy Ben did nothing for my town....Put a john lewis penguin up with a red tie on, and he would get voted in, in Skinnerland.
SocketRocket
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If it wasn't cheap it was ignorant. If you made an attempt to read and understand my post I never suggested what they would look like if they all came to my town. My point was that when we see numbers like 250,000 people I cant imagine what thats like other than as a multiple of the town I live in.
Maybe it's time to start settling more of these people in places like leafy Berkshire villages where the comfortably well off live in harmonious ignorance. Knock a few low cost housing estates over some of the snooty members Golf clubs in the South East where many middle class, liberal elite, green warriors hypothesise over the way the great unwashed never had it so good. Or is that being silly!
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Doon frae Troon
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Well said Sir
I am totally fed up of the overpopulated areas of England driving this agenda.
I live on the edge of one of the least populated areas of Europe never mind the UK.
The average is 11 people per square mile and the area covers about 90 square miles.
We need a bit of 'different' thinking and start building new towns/cities in areas of low population.
SocketRocket
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And who exactly will pay for that?
There are currently 6.6 million foreign-born people living in England – and only 500,000 elsewhere in the UK. Is the answer to move them to Scottish mountains.
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This is being tried in Bracknell, where Bracknell Forest Council are proposing to build a housing estate on the land currently occupied by the popular Blue Mountain golf course. This is despite a Section 52 agreement signed in 1990 to keep the area as open land for 150 years! Come on folks, this is a golfing forum and we should not be encouraging the wanton destruction of golf courses! :angry:
P.S. In a local consultation exercise there was only one positive response to this proposal and that was probably from the property developer who stood to make a mint from it. Everybody else who replied was against it. Nevertheless the council ploughed on anyway. Don't you just love democracy in action! :angry::angry::angry:
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Doon frae Troon
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And just how many English born people are living abroad ? About the same number I would imagine.
I was not talking about moving immigrants just a little bit of UK forward planning instead of panic planning.
Doon frae Troon
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12,000 folk fill the Hydro to hear Nicola Sturgeon speak.
SocketRocket
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Whats that got to do with the price of fish?
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Struggling for things to do during winter north of the border then ?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/364176/7-5-million-migrants-live-in-Britain
7.5 million immigrants is 13% of the UK population and white British born people are now a minority in London. Nearly half a million new migrants are arriving every year and most of them go to the London area. No wonder our roads are now gridlocked and our infrastructure can no longer cope. Did anybody vote for this? I'm sure that is not what my father fought for in WW2! His generation were trying to stop foreigners from invading us. :mmm:
One good thing about the EU is that we have the right to live and work in any other EU Country, so I am not necessarily a fan of UKIP or of the UK leaving the EU.
7.5 million immigrants is 13% of the UK population and white British born people are now a minority in London. Nearly half a million new migrants are arriving every year and most of them go to the London area. No wonder our roads are now gridlocked and our infrastructure can no longer cope. Did anybody vote for this? I'm sure that is not what my father fought for in WW2! His generation were trying to stop foreigners from invading us. :mmm:
One good thing about the EU is that we have the right to live and work in any other EU Country, so I am not necessarily a fan of UKIP or of the UK leaving the EU.
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Blimey - where to start
First you cant critsize immigrants coming into this country and then say its a good thing that we can go an work and live anywhere in the EU - double standards
Secondly - No one is "invading us" - to bring in WW2 has zero relevance
I used to credit you with some intelligence but im not so sure now when i read all your posts about immigrants
I sort of hope you are one big fishing trip looking for attention - but if not then your view are bordering on racisim and bigotry and the sort of view that gives some golf clubs a bad name with some of their members being stuck in the 50's when other races were opressed.
Im actuallt feeling quite sad for you right now
Foxholer
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Only 2 years old! Couldn't you find a more recent article?
And that seems a classic Express piece of 'journalism' - decide the tone of the item, then select tit-bits from various sources that support that view! That's not Journalism, that's 'viewpoint' at best and indoctrination/propaganda in reality!
Bigotry and Xenophobia is all it is! And selfishness/greed both now and in the history that 'made Britain great!' too!
How's the hunt for the legit survey of the congested rush hour/school run traffic going?
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Doon frae Troon
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How many would turn up to hear Miliband, Cameron or Farage speak in a country 12 times bigger than Scotland.
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Well I obviously cannot speak for your father but both my parents, and parents in law served in WW2 as did my uncles and my wife's relatives and I think I can safely say that there would not be one of them who would share your narrow minded, xenophobic views.
And all because it is taking you a bit longer in the mornings to get to the golf-club!
I believe you live a bit further out from London than I do, so maybe you are not seeing the problems that a rapid increase in population causes. Gridlocked roads, overflowing schools, housing shortages, and it's getting difficult to see a doctor. What says it all is that a fair percentage of our golf club members are immigrants from former times who have done well in life, and even they are saying there are too many immigrants coming in!
What really annoys me about the Labour Party is their lack of regard for the indigenous British population, e.g. Gordon Brown's treatment of Mrs Duffy, which ironically probably lost him the last election. I once worked for a Labour run council in the London area. Most of the councillors were from immigrant backgrounds and they made sure that all the senior posts there went to similar people, almost irrespective of qualifications and ability. Requirements like being fluent in Urdu or some other foreign language that few Brits could speak always seemed to be in the job specs. A sort of reverse apartheid if you like! :mmm:
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Foxholer
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Notwithstanding that most of the above is complete (and probably bigoted racist) rubbish (though it's pretty much agreed that there is too many immigration - just no agreement about what to do about it) do you think that it might also have something to do with the fact that new car registrations are at an all time high! 2 million new cars registered to end of October, nearly 180k in October and 450k in September! That's over 4 times as many new cars registered in those 2 months as there are net immigrants for an entire year! That's the real reason the roads are clogged!
