Ed Miliband and the Labour Party

[SocketRocket]

Still another deflected MP though isn't it

When they have a true elected MP of their own people might stand up and take notice

I think ignoring the rising swell of people that are unhappy with the demographic/cultural/political changes that have been made without their agreement is political Hari Kari for any party. What ever anyone says about UKIP they are a focus for this discontentment.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I'm not sure that's something to be proud of!

I would think that with the massive political engagement of the Scottish public this year it makes it something to be very proud of.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

She has just won the Politician of the year Award in Scotland and picked a pretty impressive cabinet, sorted out a few of Salmond's underachievers.

The way the wind is blowing I can see Milliband as PM and Salmond as Deputy PM after the 2015 election.

Questionable whether Labour will win enough seats in England and if they fail to hold onto their Scottish majority Messrs Milliband and Salmond could be sat on the left of Mr Speaker looking across the Dispatch Box at ?????????????????

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Questionable whether Labour will win enough seats in England and if they fail to hold onto their Scottish majority Messrs Milliband and Salmond could be sat on the left of Mr Speaker looking across the Dispatch Box at ?????????????????

I think UKIP gains from the Tories in England will cancel out the SNP/ ex labour seats.
With the Lib/Dems gone it will boil down to a straight fight between Labour and Tory in England and Wales.

 

[SocketRocket]

Questionable whether Labour will win enough seats in England and if they fail to hold onto their Scottish majority Messrs Milliband and Salmond could be sat on the left of Mr Speaker looking across the Dispatch Box at ?????????????????

The winners of the ugly baby competition!

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I think UKIP gains from the Tories in England will cancel out the SNP/ ex labour seats.
With the Lib/Dems gone it will boil down to a straight fight between Labour and Tory in England and Wales.

Exactly, hence my original post.

In any event I would foresee SNP support in Scotland holding up better than UKIP support in England and it is clear that KIP's support will come from both previous Labour and Tory voters.

 

[chrisd]

Btw. Just seen Dennis Skinner's 'Welcome' to Reckless (and Carswell) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30141159

Excellent old-style stuff! :rofl:

And as usual with the foolish idiot ...... a complete falsification of UKIP's argument! But Dennis, like most politicians aren't going to let the truth get in the way!

 

[c1973]

Politician of the year 'award', if they can't see what's wrong with that then they are not fit to hold office.


Sturgeon picks a cabinet with a 50/50 split male/female....cos weer aw aboot equality in the ess enn pee......but has a minister for women and not one for men?? Is she even aware of the irony?

What happened to getting there on merit? How shameful must it feel to know you only got the job because you're a woman?
As much as I fully support equality, I find this act both shameful and offensive.

 

[Foxholer]

And as usual with the foolish idiot ...... a complete falsification of UKIP's argument! But Dennis, like most politicians aren't going to let the truth get in the way!

True enough!

A nice vitriolic soapbox rant though! :thup:

The job, his bypass, probably had to be done by 'foreigners' as any locals who knew him were probably more likely to forsake their Hippocratic Oath and sabotage it! :rofl:

 

[chrisd]

True enough!

A nice vitriolic soapbox rant though! :thup:

The job, his bypass, probably had to be done by 'foreigners' as any locals who knew him were probably more likely to forsake their Hippocratic Oath and sabotage it! :rofl:

Yes, they should have bypassed his big gob!

 

[delc]

I notice that the Labour Party are now trying to distance themselves from the immigration policies of their last administration, when almost anybody was allowed in, by claiming to be even tougher on immigrants than the other parties. For example no benefits for the first 2 years. One has to wonder how much of this is political rhetoric, and why they didn't do this before while they had the chance? What is really worrying is that we seem to have let in a load of Islamic Fundamentalists who are intent on destroying our way of life and culture! :mmm:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I notice that the Labour Party are now trying to distance themselves from the immigration policies of their last administration, when almost anybody was allowed in, by claiming to be even tougher on immigrants than the other parties. For example no benefits for the first 2 years. One has to wonder how much of this is political rhetoric, and why they didn't do this before while they had the chance? What is really worrying is that we seem to have let in a load of Islamic Fundamentalists who are intent on destroying our way of life and culture! :mmm:

Can you please provide some basis and proof for this statement

 

[delc]

Can you please provide some basis and proof for this statement

Do you ever actually read newspapers or watch the TV news Phil?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do you ever actually read newspapers or watch the TV news Phil?

That didnt answer the question - pleas provide basis that we have allowed "loads of Islamic Fundamentalists" into the country

 

[Doon frae Troon]

It does appear to be the case that many of the UK Islamic Fundamentalists we have 'Let In' are second and third generation English.

 

[delc]

That didnt answer the question - pleas provide basis that we have allowed "loads of Islamic Fundamentalists" into the country

We have taken in a lot of refugees from Iraq and other Middle Eastern Countries, who have Islamic sympathies. Do I have to mention those who have gone off to fight for ISIS and other terrorist groups, the beheading of British journalists and aid workers, and the murder of British servicemen?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

We have taken in a lot of refugees from Iraq and other Middle Eastern Countries, who have Islamic sympathies.

That doesnt automatically means they are extremists just because they have Islamic sympathies

Do I have to mention those who have gone off to fight for ISIS,

With a lot of them being born in this country as opposed to "being let in"

the beheading of British journalists and aid workers, and the murder of British servicemen?

Where the two people that attacked and killed Lee Rigby not born in this country also ?

 

[delc]

That doesnt automatically means they are extremists just because they have Islamic sympathies



With a lot of them being born in this country as opposed to "being let in"


Where the two people that attacked and killed Lee Rigby not born in this country also ?

But not born and bred ethnic Christian Brits!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But not born and bred ethnic Christian Brits!

Again that doesnt make them all Islamic Fundamentalists - so please provide your proof that we have let "loads of them in"

 

[Tashyboy]

Btw. Just seen Dennis Skinner's 'Welcome' to Reckless (and Carswell) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30141159

Excellent old-style stuff! :rofl:

saw it before I went to work and it was fantastic. However Denis my son you missed the point by a million miles. No one should disagree with what you said. It is what you did not say that people have issue with. Eg, 1 in 60 people that are polish now live in this country. They are not all Drs, surgeons, anethatists, physics etc etc etc. most of them are doing non skilled jobs, which non skilled UK citizens should be doin. there in lies the problem in which have driven people to look at UKIP for example.