Do you believe you can get to scratch?

[clubchamp98]

That's superb!

It’s weird imo.

 

[clubchamp98]

Yes, I know but if the club doesn't have a chipping area, then they can't really complain.
Its not as if hes hitting 100 full wedges, taking divots and leaving pitchmarks.
And as he's on the front 9 in the evening, he's not likely to be holding up anybody

Some do damage the course though.
Chipping no ,but then decide to hit a few longer ones and leave 30/50 pitch marks in the green
That’s the reason they stopped it in mine.
For every 30 golfers there is always the selfish one.

 

[clubchamp98]

On reviewing this thread, my question is would you want to be scratch?

The majority of 5hc or below golfers that I know appear not to enjoy their golf as one hole could ruin the round, I watched a 4capper walk off after 2 holes last week as he started double double … it wasn’t about winning but he knew his day was pointless. I have quite a few friends in the 6-9’s and they have even commented that golf isn’t as enjoyable as it was when they were 12/14 ish,

A lot of truth in this.
I had an absolute mare a few weeks ago shot 17 over off 8 cap.
Sitting in the clubhouse a guy said to me “ now you know how easy it is to play with a shot a hole”
Got me thinking

 

[bobmac]

Some do damage the course though.
Chipping no ,but then decide to hit a few longer ones and leave 30/50 pitch marks in the green
That’s the reason they stopped it in mine.
For every 30 golfers there is always the selfish one.

You can practice your pitching at a driving range, but not your chipping unless your range has a chipping area

 

[VVega]

ot Scope and Arccos both back that up, the average driving distance of a scratch golfer in their databases is around 250 yards with Shot Scope having their average at 248

Both are total distances (not carry) from all of their golfers playing different courses. I think I agree with Sidekick in saying this is quite meaningless, given the variety of topography and climate conditions over the world.

 

[pokerjoke]

On reviewing this thread, my question is would you want to be scratch?

The majority of 5hc or below golfers that I know appear not to enjoy their golf as one hole could ruin the round, I watched a 4capper walk off after 2 holes last week as he started double double … it wasn’t about winning but he knew his day was pointless. I have quite a few friends in the 6-9’s and they have even commented that golf isn’t as enjoyable as it was when they were 12/14 ish,

That’s probably because they are not winning anymore,I suspect they were enjoying it whilst winning and reducing their handicap.
Walking off after 2 holes is just imo babyish.
Imagine if everyone just walked off when playing badly.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

On reviewing this thread, my question is would you want to be scratch?

The majority of 5hc or below golfers that I know appear not to enjoy their golf as one hole could ruin the round, I watched a 4capper walk off after 2 holes last week as he started double double … it wasn’t about winning but he knew his day was pointless. I have quite a few friends in the 6-9’s and they have even commented that golf isn’t as enjoyable as it was when they were 12/14 ish,

I still love the game and enjoy it regardless

If I have a poor start I take it as a challenge to try and find birdies to get myself back

Or just use the round to practise etc

Never walk off the course but I have seen it


After 3 holes in the club champs I was 5 over

 

[Neilds]

That’s probably because they are not winning anymore,I suspect they were enjoying it whilst winning and reducing their handicap.
Walking off after 2 holes is just imo babyish.
Imagine if everyone just walked off when playing badly.

I wouldn't make it past the putting green some days

 

[Orikoru]

That’s probably because they are not winning anymore,I suspect they were enjoying it whilst winning and reducing their handicap.
Walking off after 2 holes is just imo babyish.
Imagine if everyone just walked off when playing badly.

Yeah that sounds more like someone having a tantrum as they're not enjoying their golf full stop.

 

[Westy]

I think shooting par is in range but playing off scratch probably not. I've shot level for 9 a lot, even had a -2 for 9. Think best 18 is about 2 over.

So yeah, shoot level is possible if everything clicks. But don't think I could, or want to, maintain a scratch handicap. But would be nice to have done it.

 

[clubchamp98]

I still love the game and enjoy it regardless

If I have a poor start I take it as a challenge to try and find birdies to get myself back

Or just use the round to practise etc

Never walk off the course but I have seen it


After 3 holes in the club champs I was 5 over

Do you think the buffer zone was better in this scenario.?
After a bad start it gave you a challenge.
Now it’s your 8th best which might be out of reach.

I have heard players just say “ dosnt matter it’s not going to count.”

 

[Doon frae Troon]

My friends father retired aged 67 off a handicap of 8
He had played off a handicap between 12 to 8 for over 40 years.
Within a year of retiring he got down to 3 and a year later he got down to scratch, he was a member of a top 100 links course par 72.
He was still playing off 3 in his 80's and single figure into his 90's.

With golf anything is possible.

 

[rulie]

My friends father retired aged 67 off a handicap of 8
He had played off a handicap between 12 to 8 for over 40 years.
Within a year of retiring he got down to 3 and a year later he got down to scratch, he was a member of a top 100 links course par 72.
He was still playing off 3 in his 80's and single figure into his 90's.

With golf anything is possible.

Maybe possible, but not very probable!
His performance is very admirable.

 

[Imurg]

Now I've ordered my Qi35 it's just a matter of time........

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Do you think the buffer zone was better in this scenario.?
After a bad start it gave you a challenge.
Now it’s your 8th best which might be out of reach.

I have heard players just say “ dosnt matter it’s not going to count.”

That’s an interesting question

And yeah I have had the mentality that it’s replacing a score that didn’t count so it’s not to much of an issue but if it’s replacing a counting score then the feeling is a bit different

 

[CountLippe]

A lot of truth in this.
I had an absolute mare a few weeks ago shot 17 over off 8 cap.
Sitting in the clubhouse a guy said to me “ now you know how easy it is to play with a shot a hole”
Got me thinking

 

[Springveldt]

Both are total distances (not carry) from all of their golfers playing different courses. I think I agree with Sidekick in saying this is quite meaningless, given the variety of topography and climate conditions over the world.

I'm aware it's total distance but as you say it would be good if you could break it down by country so you got more of a feel for what it's like in your area. As you say, some of the stats could be coming from guys playing at 5,000 feet in altitude, some could be playing baked out fairways all year etc.

I wouldn't say it's meaningless as is though, as the guys I play with all hit it around 280 on decent hits and they range in handicap from +2 to 1. It actually seems fairly accurate to me.

 

[rulie]

That’s an interesting question

And yeah I have had the mentality that it’s replacing a score that didn’t count so it’s not to much of an issue but if it’s replacing a counting score then the feeling is a bit different

Must admit that I do not look at my scoring record to know the status of the last of my last 20 scores, and it wouldn't impact how I play on any day if I did know. However, I do know when a round has gotten to the point where it will be just one of the last 20 and not likely a counter. It doesn't change how I approach the rest of the round as I can still help my group compete against the other groups in our normal game (best 2 or 3 out of 4 on each hole).

 

[Hobbit]

Do you think the buffer zone was better in this scenario.?
After a bad start it gave you a challenge.
Now it’s your 8th best which might be out of reach.

I have heard players just say “ dosnt matter it’s not going to count.”

My aim was always to be my handicap. If that was gone, the battle was to stay in the buffer zone. After that it was what beer to have with my chips.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Must admit that I do not look at my scoring record to know if the status of the last of my last 20 scores, and it wouldn't impact how I play on any day if I did know. However, I do know when a round has gotten to the point where it will be just one of the last 20. It doesn't change how I approach the rest of the round as I can still help my group compete against the other groups in our normal game (best 2 or 3 out of 4 on each hole).

Think most of the time it’s subconscious

but a lot do seem to see the non counting ones as “free hits as such”

For example my next 4 rounds qualifying are all “free hits” as the four rounds coming off aren’t counting towards HI