freddielong
Tour Winner
spoken with all your usual charm toonarmy golf would be a lot lot less well if Tiger hadn't existed.
Cheetah Woods
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toonarmy
Q-School Graduate
Maybe I need learn speak lot lot weller as what you does freddie
Ah,good old Toonarmy... 
Moron...coming from a guy who thought that both Keegan and Shearer were the Messiah!!
I respect your opinion as you should mine,only difference being my opinion is correct and yours isn't.
Moron...coming from a guy who thought that both Keegan and Shearer were the Messiah!!
I respect your opinion as you should mine,only difference being my opinion is correct and yours isn't.
Screwback
Tour Rookie
Moron...coming from a guy who thought that both Keegan and Shearer were the Messiah!!
keegan and shearer are the messiahs arent they
Macster
Journeyman Pro
He's mechanical & miserable, but certainly not exciting.
The only exciting thing that Woods was involved in is that he was present when YE Yang showed him his @rse to beat him.
Now that was sweet.
The only exciting thing that Woods was involved in is that he was present when YE Yang showed him his @rse to beat him.
Now that was sweet.
freddielong
Tour Winner
Moron...coming from a guy who thought that both Keegan and Shearer were the Messiah!!
keegan and shearer are the messiahs arent they
Shearer is, he took them to the promised land, a league where they could compete
Screwback
Tour Rookie
Have you ever watched Tiger play because judging by some of your posts i would say not
If he is not exciting who is???
toonarmy
Q-School Graduate
Dodger, Screwback & freddie:
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.
Relevance to this thread?
None.
Evidence of me supporting this 'messiah' nonsense?
None.
Amount of cogent, reasoned discussion from you three on this topic?
Well, let's see if you can guess the answer...
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.
Relevance to this thread?
None.
Evidence of me supporting this 'messiah' nonsense?
None.
Amount of cogent, reasoned discussion from you three on this topic?
Well, let's see if you can guess the answer...
How can you say he's not exciting. He is sublime on the putting green and has the touch of a surgeon. He provides thrills off the tee as you can never be too sure he'll find the fairway and if he doesn't it may not be in the same time zone. I watch him because he's the best at what e does and I appreciate watching those at the top of their game. On a Saturday I might watch a horse race on Channel 4 and I marvel at the way McCoy and coax an average also ran to make a sustained challenge and nick the prize when by rights he had not right to do so. I like Federer for his domination although that is being challenged. In my book Ronnie O'Sullivan is the best snooker player (certainly the most talented) but while I enjoy watching him, like Woods I don't like his surly manner when he's losing or some of his off table antics.
I am not a Tiger fan other than liking watching the worlds best but the game needs him if it is to continue at this level with so many events around the year for us to enjoy watching, the wider arrange of equipment available to us and for the continued interest shown by the 8-20 year olds coming into the game which will be clubs lifeblood for the next generation
I am not a Tiger fan other than liking watching the worlds best but the game needs him if it is to continue at this level with so many events around the year for us to enjoy watching, the wider arrange of equipment available to us and for the continued interest shown by the 8-20 year olds coming into the game which will be clubs lifeblood for the next generation
Screwback
Tour Rookie
Its plenty off relevence to this thread!!
As for the messiah - a joke perhaps
And as for you having an idea about this post?
Well, lets see if you can guess the answer...
Macster
Journeyman Pro
I really dont get why there are so many who worship the guy, I really dont.
The only thing I like about him is his total effort to the last putt, which is the main difference to all the other's he plays against.
But really fella's, there is not a like about his demeanor on the course, particularly over the last 2years, and now that his private life has imploded, he's going to be one of the least respected men out there.
Add in the possible ramifications if he is inextricably linked to 'Mr Performance Enhancing Drug Doctor', and who knows.
Lets be brutally realistic here, he's bulked a fair bit over the last 2/3yrs, which IF you were taking some steroidal performance enhancer, you possibly might expect to do ?
Like I say, its funny how he didnt play for those 8mths with a 'knee injury', just before Drug testing was introduced to the Tour, apparently.
too many co-incidences here.
The only thing I like about him is his total effort to the last putt, which is the main difference to all the other's he plays against.
But really fella's, there is not a like about his demeanor on the course, particularly over the last 2years, and now that his private life has imploded, he's going to be one of the least respected men out there.
Add in the possible ramifications if he is inextricably linked to 'Mr Performance Enhancing Drug Doctor', and who knows.
Lets be brutally realistic here, he's bulked a fair bit over the last 2/3yrs, which IF you were taking some steroidal performance enhancer, you possibly might expect to do ?
Like I say, its funny how he didnt play for those 8mths with a 'knee injury', just before Drug testing was introduced to the Tour, apparently.
too many co-incidences here.
viscount17
Money List Winner
golf does not need TW, but it does need a 'Tiger'.
If a player were to shoot to the fore next season, the press, then the sponsors would be on him in a flash and TW would become 'yesterday's man' in the same way that Jack became yesterday's man.
I don't doubt that TW inspired a lot of youngsters to take up golf, but then so did Jack. Who inspired more - does it matter? In the end all winners inspire.
As to TW. Will he come back? probably. as good as he was? not sure, he'll need a hell of a lot of support.
If a player were to shoot to the fore next season, the press, then the sponsors would be on him in a flash and TW would become 'yesterday's man' in the same way that Jack became yesterday's man.
I don't doubt that TW inspired a lot of youngsters to take up golf, but then so did Jack. Who inspired more - does it matter? In the end all winners inspire.
As to TW. Will he come back? probably. as good as he was? not sure, he'll need a hell of a lot of support.
Like you say too many coincidences. I think you'll find too many medical records to prove that Woods had the surgery and that his injury was cosher. I thought I made it clear I don't worship the guy but recognise him for being the best golfer on the planet at the moment and certainly in the last 20 years. I don't agree with his spitting and club throwing and have voiced that on the threads at the time. He has been huge for golf and has taken what was seen as an elitist and boring sport out of the shadows and has single handedly got a whole generation of youngsters interested in playing. That has to be good for the long term health of the game irrespective of his private life.
I've not seen the reports on this "drug doctor" but sniff a guy caught doing wrong and either smelling a huge profit or desperately trying to save his own skin by playing the Tiger card.
I've not seen the reports on this "drug doctor" but sniff a guy caught doing wrong and either smelling a huge profit or desperately trying to save his own skin by playing the Tiger card.
Screwback
Tour Rookie
I certainly worship the guy for his golfing ability i mean really there is no other golfer that comes close mind i reckon a few on here think they do
Pants
Challenge Tour Pro
OK he can perform at the highest levels of his chosen sport. But he is not a god.
He may well have inspired many people to take up golf (as have many, many golfers before him) but from what I have seen on the courses I play, many of these newer players will often copy TW's antics i.e. gobbing, throwing clubs, taking divots out of the greens in "frustration", etc. If Tiger does it, it must be OK.
Are you one of these "newer" players perchance?
To my mind, in a few years time when all the fall out from his on-course behaviour and the current speculation has run it's course, TW may well not be viewed as the greatest thing ever to have happened to golf.
If you choose to worship him then that's up to you but I would suggest that you re-evaluate your posts and those of other more reasoned respondents on this thread, and then possibly re-evaluate your life
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Lets be honest here. Tiger is not the only/worst offender when it comes to bad behaviour on the course. He is not the only offender when it comes to bad behaviour off the course either. He's not the first to spit,cuss,throw clubs,smash tee boxes etc etc and he won't be the last. There's so much at stake these days that most of them do it to an extent - you just don't see it because all eyes are on Tiger. I don't think he's worse than many others, he's much the same. So singling him out because its Tiger bashing month - well its fashionable to hit someone when they're down.
I don't know Tiger Woods, none of us do. I don't know for sure what's happened in his private life and neither do the rest of us. All I've got to go on are the tales of a few tarts who look like they could use the money. He's played away - we know that. But how much? Don't know. Don't care. Its none of my business. Just like it would be none of anyone elses if I was in his position. Tiger to us is a golfer. The best golfer on the planet. If people don't like him, that's fine. But Golf will be a much better game to watch if he does come back. He will still inspire kids to start playing the game - probably much more than anyone else and this has to be good for the game. If Tiger retires, how many fewer kids will take up golf? There's not many unique players out there these days to inspire the next generation.....
I don't know Tiger Woods, none of us do. I don't know for sure what's happened in his private life and neither do the rest of us. All I've got to go on are the tales of a few tarts who look like they could use the money. He's played away - we know that. But how much? Don't know. Don't care. Its none of my business. Just like it would be none of anyone elses if I was in his position. Tiger to us is a golfer. The best golfer on the planet. If people don't like him, that's fine. But Golf will be a much better game to watch if he does come back. He will still inspire kids to start playing the game - probably much more than anyone else and this has to be good for the game. If Tiger retires, how many fewer kids will take up golf? There's not many unique players out there these days to inspire the next generation.....
Pants
Challenge Tour Pro
Just out of interest, why did you decide to take up golf? Just because, or did a certain player inspire you? If so, who?
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Faldo as it happens - not the best advert for a stable family background either.
Pants
Challenge Tour Pro
So it's not just TW who inspires people to take up the game. Another era, another year, another "role model".
I have not brought TW's private life into my posts on this matter although many posters have. Many people in the public eye, not just golfers, have had unstable private lives - as have I suspect a fair proportion of any cross section of society including members of this forum so I see little merit in bringing that into the discussion.
I have not brought TW's private life into my posts on this matter although many posters have. Many people in the public eye, not just golfers, have had unstable private lives - as have I suspect a fair proportion of any cross section of society including members of this forum so I see little merit in bringing that into the discussion.
Parmo
Tour Winner
I read yesterday we are on affair 14 now!! I agree wutg 50 cent, Tiger should have been more gansta and he would have got away with it. Imagine that on the 8th fairway "Tiger pulls out an AK47 from the back for this 240 yard dog leg approach shot"
