HomerJSimpson
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To be fair Del, only BM has gone, certainly on your list and while Beckenham is certain to go, it's hardly a glut and not as if muni golf is dying out in the south east
Carly Booth and Scottish golf in general
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To be fair Del, only BM has gone, certainly on your list and while Beckenham is certain to go, it's hardly a glut and not as if muni golf is dying out in the south east
Jimaroid
Journeyman Pro
It's St Andrews, I expected you to know the area better considering you once claimed there was a sign outside the R&A clubhouse saying "No dogs or women".
Pine Ridge is a lovely course. As it is another Crown Group course I can play there for free, but what does it cost as a P&P? The run down and closure of Blue Mountain must have added to the pressure on it.
HomerJSimpson
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Not really. There's Downshire in Bracknell to take up the Blue Mountain trade and Pine Ridge is a reasonable drive away.
Relative to the 10 million plus population in and around London (twice the total population of Scotland), I can't think of too many municipal courses around here. Only really Rickmansworth, Haste Hill, Uxbridge and Ruislip in my area. The latter two are likely to be affected by the construction of the HS2 railway line.
I did play Downshire a few years ago and don't remember it being that inspiring! How has it been affected by the closure of Blue Mountain?
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
rickg
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It's:
DelC
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Darn Sarf
KN0 B1
If out at time of delivery, just leave it with one of the assortment of foreign neighbours :rofl:
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
I'll send it UPS (Unbelievably Pedestrian Serbians) - I think thats what he thinks it stands for. The van may delay him on the way to the golf.:thup:
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
To answer the opening post and based on zero research I wonder if just because a game originated in a particular country it might not actually entitle that country to dominate the game till the end of time
Also I wonder what the differences are in how a young Asian girl encounters the game of golf V the experience of a young UK girl? (or boys for that matter)
Is it possible one group are welcomed, supported, nurtured, coached, taught, guided etc etc in an appropriate environment by dedicated passionate people and maybe the other group encounter a fraction of the aforementioned behaviours from a minority but in addition they also see many aging players who are overtly traditional, stuck in members adult only clubhouses, unhappy with rules, complaining about formats, course setup, hole sizes, dress codes, young players, tee boxes, car-parks etc etc etc and maybe this second group are thinking... life’s just a bit too short for all that malarkey and I’d hate to turn into one of ‘them’, I’m off to try something else!
Did everyone see how much fun the young Asian golfers were having on the recent televised events held out there? This was the cream of the game playing to a high standard and having an absolute blast doing it while wearing some wacky (but functional) outfits
Like most I don’t know Carly Booth, (met her briefly once after a social round) and in hindsight her behaviour that day and her multi coloured clothes, back-flips on the practice green, really seems to fit with the fun element that the Asian women were showing but I wonder if all the other potential talent in the UK gets to experience golf that way?
Also I wonder what the differences are in how a young Asian girl encounters the game of golf V the experience of a young UK girl? (or boys for that matter)
Is it possible one group are welcomed, supported, nurtured, coached, taught, guided etc etc in an appropriate environment by dedicated passionate people and maybe the other group encounter a fraction of the aforementioned behaviours from a minority but in addition they also see many aging players who are overtly traditional, stuck in members adult only clubhouses, unhappy with rules, complaining about formats, course setup, hole sizes, dress codes, young players, tee boxes, car-parks etc etc etc and maybe this second group are thinking... life’s just a bit too short for all that malarkey and I’d hate to turn into one of ‘them’, I’m off to try something else!
Did everyone see how much fun the young Asian golfers were having on the recent televised events held out there? This was the cream of the game playing to a high standard and having an absolute blast doing it while wearing some wacky (but functional) outfits
Like most I don’t know Carly Booth, (met her briefly once after a social round) and in hindsight her behaviour that day and her multi coloured clothes, back-flips on the practice green, really seems to fit with the fun element that the Asian women were showing but I wonder if all the other potential talent in the UK gets to experience golf that way?
I am not that hard up thanks! I have a reasonably good pension, own a house which I paid off the mortgage on some years ago, am a member of a private golf club, and own a share of an aeroplane. I prefer Indian food, but Chinese is OK!
The point I am trying to make is that a person on an average sort of income would struggle to afford to be a member of a golf club round here. The only good thing is that long waiting lists to join a club and the interview with the committee are largely a thing of the past.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Not made a huge difference to be honest as Blue Mountain was also a members club so most have found new clubs and the nomads pay and play when the weather suits (as a generalisation) and so over the winter it's not made a difference.
I should point out that there are also two public courses in very close to central London in Richmond Park which are never ever going to be sold for development. Similarly Wimbledon Common and Mitcham Common also allow visitors midweek so plenty of London based courses for the pay and play golfer to use
Both those courses are at least an hours drive away through London's gridlocked roads for me. I believe that West Herts and Pinner Hill Golf Clubs have days when non-member local residents can play, as a condition of their leases.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
This is dreadful stuff.
Scotland is called the home of golf because that is where golf started.
Mind you, according to recent research, life on earth started just south of Oban so you could say that the Scots invented absolutely everything.
mikeb4
Head Pro
"Now Scotland is supposed to be the home of golf and a National Sport up there,"
for the avoidance of doubt, Scotland and specifically St Andrews in the Kingdom of Fife is the home of golf, and yes it is our national sport.
for the avoidance of doubt, Scotland and specifically St Andrews in the Kingdom of Fife is the home of golf, and yes it is our national sport.
SugarPenguin
Challenge Tour Pro
Big aspect that I don’t think has been mentioned is the weather.
You cannot play and practice all year round in Scotland. You probably get 8 decent months of golf in a year. The rest of time playing on the course wouldn’t be that productive.
Compare this to a Texan or Spanish based Junior who pretty much have access to golf course all year round. They are getting at least 30% more golf in a year if you think about rainy days etc etc.. (Just a guess).
That’s a massive difference especially for Juniors who just love going out and playing. Its not just about accessibility and socio-economic factors (blah, blah) – its not so black and white.
You cannot play and practice all year round in Scotland. You probably get 8 decent months of golf in a year. The rest of time playing on the course wouldn’t be that productive.
Compare this to a Texan or Spanish based Junior who pretty much have access to golf course all year round. They are getting at least 30% more golf in a year if you think about rainy days etc etc.. (Just a guess).
That’s a massive difference especially for Juniors who just love going out and playing. Its not just about accessibility and socio-economic factors (blah, blah) – its not so black and white.
davidy233
Tour Rookie
Not sure about this - I hit golf balls pretty much every day for a year during 2014 - Links courses (which we've got a few of) are playable most days of the year and if they aren't I've got a superb driving range just across the water in St Andrews.
This is dreadful stuff.
It is called the home of golf because that is where golf started.
Mind you, according to recent research, life on earth started just south of Oban so you could say that the Scots invented absolutely everything.
The Dutch might dispute that!
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turkish
Journeyman Pro
We don't all live next to the coast tho ;-) My course is definitely only playable 8-9 months of the year!!!
There's a fair amount of good indoor and range facilities though
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They might but they would be wrong.
Scotland is the home of golf and the birthplace of the game. End of!
And that is from an Englishman
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