BLM protests/ Riots.

[Jimaroid]

The statue was in Colston Street, just down from the Colston Hall, just short distance away is Colston Girls School one of three schools along with a number of alms houses he had built, the Universary up the road still has bursaries allocated from his funding, how much of that should we destroy. He died 300 years ago. We should learn from history, you cant change it.

We can’t change the events of the past but we can change how we adulate those that were involved. The aggrandisement and adoration of slavers and slavery is surely a wrong we can put right in the present. This isn't about changing history, this is about recognising it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Read this on Facebook from a NHS Doctor

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As a doctor who has worked in covid wards for the last 3 months - I support these protests and the BLM movement wholeheartedly. Anyone who works for the NHS should do the same. I am sick to death of people who don’t even work for the NHS using us as a reason to disagree with the protest. No. Don’t you dare. “Think of the NHS workers” is not your get out of jail free card to express your deep rooted racism.

And yes, protesting and mass gatherings are not ideal during a pandemic. But this cannot wait. It has already gone on long enough.

The racism, hardships and countless deaths that black people have faced have gone on far longer than covid - and if you are using the virus as an excuse to rebuke the protesters and the BLM movement, you are part of the problem.

Black people are 4 times more likely to die from covid. They know this. You know this. Yet they are still willing to risk their lives and go out and protest. Have you even bothered to think about why? It is because they know that racism is far more deadly than covid. And it’s about time you realised the same.

Where was your outrage when people were flocking to beaches to tan? Where was your outrage when people had VE Day parties and didn’t social distance? No one will blame these events for a second wave - which was already coming before this protest. These protesters wore face masks and social distanced the best they could but that is not enough. Some of you would rather see them stay at home. Some of you have forgotten your outrage at the murder of George Floyd already and have now focused your outrage on black people again. And you don’t even see that as a problem. This is how deep rooted your (and my) privilege is. And it needs to stop now.”

 

[SocketRocket]

We can’t change the events of the past but we can change how we adulate those that were involved. The aggrandisement and adoration of slavers and slavery is surely a wrong we can put right in the present. This isn't about changing history, this is about recognising it.

I dont believe anyone is disagreeing with that. I think people are educated to understand the wrongs of slavery, does anyone actually defend it.

 

[SocketRocket]

Read this on Facebook from a NHS Doctor

“
As a doctor who has worked in covid wards for the last 3 months - I support these protests and the BLM movement wholeheartedly. Anyone who works for the NHS should do the same. I am sick to death of people who don’t even work for the NHS using us as a reason to disagree with the protest. No. Don’t you dare. “Think of the NHS workers” is not your get out of jail free card to express your deep rooted racism.

And yes, protesting and mass gatherings are not ideal during a pandemic. But this cannot wait. It has already gone on long enough.

The racism, hardships and countless deaths that black people have faced have gone on far longer than covid - and if you are using the virus as an excuse to rebuke the protesters and the BLM movement, you are part of the problem.

Black people are 4 times more likely to die from covid. They know this. You know this. Yet they are still willing to risk their lives and go out and protest. Have you even bothered to think about why? It is because they know that racism is far more deadly than covid. And it’s about time you realised the same.

Where was your outrage when people were flocking to beaches to tan? Where was your outrage when people had VE Day parties and didn’t social distance? No one will blame these events for a second wave - which was already coming before this protest. These protesters wore face masks and social distanced the best they could but that is not enough. Some of you would rather see them stay at home. Some of you have forgotten your outrage at the murder of George Floyd already and have now focused your outrage on black people again. And you don’t even see that as a problem. This is how deep rooted your (and my) privilege is. And it needs to stop now.”

There is so much wrong with that statement.

 

[Dando]

Read this on Facebook from a NHS Doctor

“
As a doctor who has worked in covid wards for the last 3 months - I support these protests and the BLM movement wholeheartedly. Anyone who works for the NHS should do the same. I am sick to death of people who don’t even work for the NHS using us as a reason to disagree with the protest. No. Don’t you dare. “Think of the NHS workers” is not your get out of jail free card to express your deep rooted racism.

And yes, protesting and mass gatherings are not ideal during a pandemic. But this cannot wait. It has already gone on long enough.

The racism, hardships and countless deaths that black people have faced have gone on far longer than covid - and if you are using the virus as an excuse to rebuke the protesters and the BLM movement, you are part of the problem.

Black people are 4 times more likely to die from covid. They know this. You know this. Yet they are still willing to risk their lives and go out and protest. Have you even bothered to think about why? It is because they know that racism is far more deadly than covid. And it’s about time you realised the same.

Where was your outrage when people were flocking to beaches to tan? Where was your outrage when people had VE Day parties and didn’t social distance? No one will blame these events for a second wave - which was already coming before this protest. These protesters wore face masks and social distanced the best they could but that is not enough. Some of you would rather see them stay at home. Some of you have forgotten your outrage at the murder of George Floyd already and have now focused your outrage on black people again. And you don’t even see that as a problem. This is how deep rooted your (and my) privilege is. And it needs to stop now.”

Well he’ll certainly be a lot busier soon!

 

[ColchesterFC]

Read this on Facebook from a NHS Doctor

“
As a doctor who has worked in covid wards for the last 3 months - I support these protests and the BLM movement wholeheartedly. Anyone who works for the NHS should do the same. I am sick to death of people who don’t even work for the NHS using us as a reason to disagree with the protest. No. Don’t you dare. “Think of the NHS workers” is not your get out of jail free card to express your deep rooted racism.

And yes, protesting and mass gatherings are not ideal during a pandemic. But this cannot wait. It has already gone on long enough.

The racism, hardships and countless deaths that black people have faced have gone on far longer than covid - and if you are using the virus as an excuse to rebuke the protesters and the BLM movement, you are part of the problem.

Black people are 4 times more likely to die from covid. They know this. You know this. Yet they are still willing to risk their lives and go out and protest. Have you even bothered to think about why? It is because they know that racism is far more deadly than covid. And it’s about time you realised the same.

Where was your outrage when people were flocking to beaches to tan? Where was your outrage when people had VE Day parties and didn’t social distance? No one will blame these events for a second wave - which was already coming before this protest. These protesters wore face masks and social distanced the best they could but that is not enough. Some of you would rather see them stay at home. Some of you have forgotten your outrage at the murder of George Floyd already and have now focused your outrage on black people again. And you don’t even see that as a problem. This is how deep rooted your (and my) privilege is. And it needs to stop now.”

What annoys me about posts like these is that it assumes that people are only complaining about the current protests and have ignored the previous events. These things are not exclusive.

Dominic Cummings was wrong to do what he did and should have been sacked.
The people that had VE Day celebrations and didn't socially distance were morons.
The people that packed on to the beaches and didn't socially distance were morons.
The protesters that are ignoring social distancing are morons.

And "social distanced as best they could" is a complete nonsense. The advice hasn't been to socially distance "as best we can". Not all of the protesters wore masks and those that did weren't (in the majority) wearing masks that would prevent them from catching the virus. They would have reduced the chances of them passing on the virus but not of catching it.

 

[Papas1982]

Read this on Facebook from a NHS Doctor

“
As a doctor who has worked in covid wards for the last 3 months - I support these protests and the BLM movement wholeheartedly. Anyone who works for the NHS should do the same. I am sick to death of people who don’t even work for the NHS using us as a reason to disagree with the protest. No. Don’t you dare. “Think of the NHS workers” is not your get out of jail free card to express your deep rooted racism.

And yes, protesting and mass gatherings are not ideal during a pandemic. But this cannot wait. It has already gone on long enough.

The racism, hardships and countless deaths that black people have faced have gone on far longer than covid - and if you are using the virus as an excuse to rebuke the protesters and the BLM movement, you are part of the problem.

Black people are 4 times more likely to die from covid. They know this. You know this. Yet they are still willing to risk their lives and go out and protest. Have you even bothered to think about why? It is because they know that racism is far more deadly than covid. And it’s about time you realised the same.

Where was your outrage when people were flocking to beaches to tan? Where was your outrage when people had VE Day parties and didn’t social distance? No one will blame these events for a second wave - which was already coming before this protest. These protesters wore face masks and social distanced the best they could but that is not enough. Some of you would rather see them stay at home. Some of you have forgotten your outrage at the murder of George Floyd already and have now focused your outrage on black people again. And you don’t even see that as a problem. This is how deep rooted your (and my) privilege is. And it needs to stop now.”

it’s nit your statement, but there are so many things wrong there.
plenty have criticised those flocking to beaches, having parties or single politicians going on a drive.

i know a fair few nhs workers and there are plenty who are angry at anyone flouting the rules.

 

[Dando]

I’m sure a few job applications and the odd bar of soap thrown by the police would’ve dispersed them

 

[HomerJSimpson]

it’s nit your statement, but there are so many things wrong there.
plenty have criticised those flocking to beaches, having parties or single politicians going on a drive.

i know a fair few nhs workers and there are plenty who are angry at anyone flouting the rules.

I was complaining about all these as they happened. Got told there wasn't a problem in Bournemouth and that there was a news bias to make it seem worse than it was. Plenty where I work are far from happy at everything they've seen, more so as we got to zero Covid patients in ICU on Friday. All of these plus the closeness at so many protests across the company is not going to help and especially in areas where the R rate is already close 1 or above. I have no issues with people wanting to protest but in my opinion there is a greater public need to fight the spread of Covid. The issues these people are standing up for will still be there and there will be a time and place when these should be brought to the fore again, debated and dealt with publicy

 

[DanFST]

I'm ** livid.

These aren't protestors, they are scum.

The protestors need to distance themselves and rat them out sharpish.

 

[ColchesterFC]

I'm ** livid.

These aren't protestors, they are scum.

The protestors need to distance themselves and rat them out sharpish.

Several videos on Twitter tonight showing "protesters" throwing objects at the police. Very noticeable in all of them was that there were a number of people telling them to stop and to back away from the police lines. Hopefully video evidence will show those responsible and they will be dealt with appropriately.

 

[TheDiablo]

I’m sure a few job applications and the odd bar of soap thrown by the police would’ve dispersed them

Let's all laugh at black people being poor and dirty!! Omg so so funny. Lol.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Have to confess I had never heard of Colston before today. Interesting to learn that he was also a Tory MP.

Ummm yes, he died 300 years ago
Shall we try and deselect him?

 

[Wolf]

Have to confess I had never heard of Colston before today. Interesting to learn that he was also a Tory MP.

I think we can discount that as any relevance on current day politics as he was a Tory MP that died 300 years ago, but that Tory party isn't the same as one in power now, considering the actual Conservative Party (Tories) wasn't formed until 1834, a good 60 years after Colston died.

I'm not defending the bloke but come on if your going to make it political or at least mention the politics, do so accurately.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Good question. I think it should have been removed a while ago. I'm uncomfortable with what was done, mob rule is not correct, but i can see how it could happen right now.

I'm not one for re-writing history and removing all examples of our past but from what I've read this should have been an obvious one to remove.

One for the liverpool lads. Liverpool was another port involved in slavery, are there equivalent statues there or have they been removed? If so, are they now in the slavery museum or in a basement somewhere out of sight?

Dont drag us into it, we already have enough on our plate. #scouselivesmatter

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Dont drag us into it, we already have enough on our plate. #scouselivesmatter

???

 

[SocketRocket]

June 6th. Does that day resonate with anyone, 75 years on and someone protesting against lives mattering tries to set fire to the flags on the cenotaph.

 

[Wolf]

Just trying not to erase history.

I'm clearly "at it" mentioning that but there was nothing inaccurate in the post so I cannot accept that particular accusation. Kudos to you on your knowledge of political history, had hoped that one might run a little longer

Maybe not inaccurate but very ambiguous in stating he was a Tory which alludes to links to current government of which there isn't.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

June 6th. Does that day resonate with anyone, 75 years on and someone protesting against lives mattering tries to set fire to the flags on the cenotaph.

Yes it means an awful lot to many of us on here, but there are people who, in spite of what many people did 75 years ago, feel there lives still don’t matter, Just because of the colour of their skin.

 

[Papas1982]

Let's all laugh at black people being poor and dirty!! Omg so so funny. Lol.

knowing James and having seen the occasional comment from him in the past.

It was simply a dig at those that join the protests simply as they've have nothing better to do.