Best Player never to win a Major debate

[Papas1982]

Tennis is a shorter career than golf so a journeyman tennis player is not going to last 10 or 15 years, making 20 paydays a year. But there are probably a few on the doubles circuit that have similar type careers as a journeyman golfer, in terms of grinding out 6 figures most years, playing 35 events etc.

Golf also lends itself to larger fields. That's golf's decision to allow a place for the 125th ranked player on tour to stay on tour and have earning potential despite probably not bringing commercial value to a tournament he enters.

I wouldn't say that golf is a niche sport. It has always had global appeal and most people interested in any kind of sport will recognise golf and have a basic understanding of it. Curling is a niche sport.

Tennis tends to go;

final. 2
semi. 4
quarter. 8
rd 4. 16
3. 32
2. 64
1. 128
qualifiers.
But golf has larger fields?

golf has more money in it than tennis and that’s why tennis players have appealed for money to get to the lower players. 4. majors doesn’t make the sport comparable.

niche may be extreme. But golf certainly falls behind many sports that it earns more than re participation. Imo it simply doesn’t stake up that golf was simply bound to increase, because many others haven’t increased like it has.....

but that’ll do for now Coz this is irrelevant to the op.

monty btw.

 

[Grant85]

Tennis tends to go;

final. 2
semi. 4
quarter. 8
rd 4. 16
3. 32
2. 64
1. 128
qualifiers.
But golf has larger fields?

golf has more money in it than tennis and that’s why tennis players have appealed for money to get to the lower players. 4. majors doesn’t make the sport comparable.

niche may be extreme. But golf certainly falls behind many sports that it earns more than re participation. Imo it simply doesn’t stake up that golf was simply bound to increase, because many others haven’t increased like it has.....

but that’ll do for now Coz this is irrelevant to the op.

monty btw.

I'm fairly sure only the grand slams are 128. Most tour events will be 64, with a fair amount of qualifying for the players ranked 100+.
And I'm sure a 1st round loser was making c. £40,000 at Wimbledon the other year.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I'm fairly sure only the grand slams are 128. Most tour events will be 64, with a fair amount of qualifying for the players ranked 100+.
And I'm sure a 1st round loser was making c. £40,000 at Wimbledon the other year.

Just compare the prize money earnings for the 100th ranked player on the PGA Tour with his counterpart on the WTA.

There has been no equivalent effect upon the world of tennis to the Tiger effect in golf.

 

[Val]

How is it non-comparable?

You made the point journeymen golfers were pretty well off now... implying that they had Tiger to thank for that.

But this is true in loads of other sports... Robbie Savage being an example of a journeyman pro in football being a multi-millionaire with a 15 year career window.
Meanwhile you will have guys who were successful footballers through the 80s and into the 90s driving taxis and delivering parcels.

Ultimately sports were getting to a stage where the finances were growing much faster than inflation. Whether there was a Tiger Woods or not in that sport, most professional sports have seen similar growth in earnings from the 90s to present day.

It's non comparable because you compare team sport with people getting a salary to a sport where earnings are won, prize money is great but you still have to be in the mix. Footballers get a salary, negotiated by an agent.

Not hard to work out really.

 

[Grant85]

It's non comparable because you compare team sport with people getting a salary to a sport where earnings are won, prize money is great but you still have to be in the mix. Footballers get a salary, negotiated by an agent.

Not hard to work out really.

Money is money. The mechanism for earning or deciding how much people earn is fairly academic. Footballers income hasn't increased by thousands of percent just because they get a salary and have a good agent. The clubs have to generate the revenue to pay the salaries.

Ultimately the money in all sports come from similar sources. It is a distribution based on a share of broadcast deals, sponsorship, gate receipts, prize money, hospitality income etc etc.

Golf distributes this largely through prize money and footballers receive it largely through salary / bonus.

 

[Jacko_G]

Tiger grew golf.

End of.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

TV money is what pays football so much

Sponsors pay for golf tournaments

Tiger playing increases the appeal to sponsors, so they will pay more for the big events he plays in.

Look into TV audiences when Tiger was hors de combat.

 

[Crow]

Tiger grew golf.

End of.

Palmer grew golf.

Start of.

 

[Jacko_G]

Palmer grew golf.

Start of.

Wouldn't ever disagree. ?️?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Tiger grew golf.

End of.

Yes he did. Along with Arnie, Jack, Seve and quite a few others.

 

[Jacko_G]

Yes he did. Along with Arnie, Jack, Seve and quite a few others.

I think the vast majority of people would agree with you.....

 

[Val]

Money is money. The mechanism for earning or deciding how much people earn is fairly academic. Footballers income hasn't increased by thousands of percent just because they get a salary and have a good agent. The clubs have to generate the revenue to pay the salaries.

Ultimately the money in all sports come from similar sources. It is a distribution based on a share of broadcast deals, sponsorship, gate receipts, prize money, hospitality income etc etc.

Golf distributes this largely through prize money and footballers receive it largely through salary / bonus.

Jesus, you really are hard work.

You just don't get it, I'll leave you alone