Tashyboy
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Smiffy shouldn't you be out on the lash today partying. Not lurking around here. Happy birthday
Smiffy shouldn't you be out on the lash today partying. Not lurking around here. Happy birthday
duncan mackie
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Coffey
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Paperboy
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I remember playing of 14, got 43 points n a board comp. Was third on count back to a 11 and 12 handicapper. B lobbed the SI 18 as well 
A week later in a normal stableford got another 43 points after a 2 shot cut and won by 6 points. Wish it had been the other way around!
A week later in a normal stableford got another 43 points after a 2 shot cut and won by 6 points. Wish it had been the other way around!
ScienceBoy
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to be a handicap cheat you have to have intent manipulate the system to your favour.
Practicing hard and playing in a comp once a month is fine IMP, you might only get in 8-10 comps a year but that’s enough. I think 3 is too few, 5 is ok
Practicing hard and playing in a comp once a month is fine IMP, you might only get in 8-10 comps a year but that’s enough. I think 3 is too few, 5 is ok
jusme
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I simply see that type of person as a cheat. I wouldn't play them for money and I would tell them why
Wolf
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Rather than creating a new thread for sake of it thought I'd resurrect this one.
Just played in our Wednesday Wanderers 9 hole midweek roll up, I'm usually at work so this was my first outing in it for weeks.
Played in a 3 ball with one of our lady members and with a lad that's recently moved to our club from one a few miles away. I was marking the card for all 3 of us and when asked handicaps told me his was 15. So no dramas, He was hitting the ball simply sensationally, long and straight. When he missed a green he had an amazing touch from the sand. He finished the front 9 with 24pts.
When we got in he collected his money from the swindle pot and made his exit. Whilst sat having a coffee of the guys and ladies that play in the roll up each week were a little disgruntled and one of them said he's won the pot every week for the last 7 weeks and the worst he has scored is 22 points and that was with a blob.
The lady I played with at this point mentioned she spoke with him on the 7th hole about his handicap and how it will get cut and he had told her at his last club he played off 6, but did new cards when he moved to us, but had been choosing not to play in qualifiers as he wanted to wait till big comps in summer come round. As you can imagine there were a few disgruntled members feeling like they've been done over the last few weeks knowing this fact and as a result one of the older boys has reported it to our pro to look into.
I'm all for people having the best chance to win something but today's episode left a sour taste.l
Just played in our Wednesday Wanderers 9 hole midweek roll up, I'm usually at work so this was my first outing in it for weeks.
Played in a 3 ball with one of our lady members and with a lad that's recently moved to our club from one a few miles away. I was marking the card for all 3 of us and when asked handicaps told me his was 15. So no dramas, He was hitting the ball simply sensationally, long and straight. When he missed a green he had an amazing touch from the sand. He finished the front 9 with 24pts.
When we got in he collected his money from the swindle pot and made his exit. Whilst sat having a coffee of the guys and ladies that play in the roll up each week were a little disgruntled and one of them said he's won the pot every week for the last 7 weeks and the worst he has scored is 22 points and that was with a blob.
The lady I played with at this point mentioned she spoke with him on the 7th hole about his handicap and how it will get cut and he had told her at his last club he played off 6, but did new cards when he moved to us, but had been choosing not to play in qualifiers as he wanted to wait till big comps in summer come round. As you can imagine there were a few disgruntled members feeling like they've been done over the last few weeks knowing this fact and as a result one of the older boys has reported it to our pro to look into.
I'm all for people having the best chance to win something but today's episode left a sour taste.l
If what the lady member has said s true then he may well struggle to find someone to mark his card in a comp...... Blatant handicap avoidance imo
Gotta ask though, if he had a legitimate handicap, why has he had to hand in new cards at your place?
Ouch, not a way to make friends.
NorwichBanana
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Maybe add in your own roll up handicaps? So if said chap wins he loses 1 or 2 shots off his handicap the following week and so on and so forth.
Wolf
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I actually have no answer to that question to be honest. I can only assume he wasn't upfront about his previous membership when he joined and didn't give his CDH number. But that's just me making an assumption based on what she said to us about her conversation with him.
Would make things a lot simpler I don't actually know why they don't do that, but I only play in it once every few weeks when not at work so has never been an issue for me, perhaps something they need to look at going forward
rosecott
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Did he fail to disclose his previous handicap history when he joined your club? I find it extremely hard to believe that he was allocated 15 unless he had not been playing for a very long time since his previous handicap - even then it sounds very dodgy. If that is the case, the club should take immediate action, including a demand to repay his ill-goten gains.
sounds dodgy, if he was a member at a club in the last year or so it should have been picked up and had the same handicap... never quit understand the mentality of these people why would you want to get a 15 handicap when you were 6 before???
D
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Does the roll up, not adjust the handicap after every roll up ? thought most did, would stop a guy doing all NQ and winning the pot each week, fairly quickly, as the roll up would be cutting him hard each time?
Either way surprised something hasn't happen by the handicap committee with the extra information now available.
Either way surprised something hasn't happen by the handicap committee with the extra information now available.
rosecott
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There should be no need for roll-up handicaps to be adjusted if all players have genuine handicaps - and that is up to the Handicap Committee.
Wolf
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Again can't comment as I wasn't party of the I itial conversation with the lady in our group, likewise I can only make assumptions on why he did cards or didn't declare previous playing records as it was the first time I'd ever met him. He was a very good ball striker though. Important thing for me is its now been brought to attention of the right people.
Again as above I'm not sure Patrick, I can only make assumptions based on the little info we all got at the coffee table today. Like you I can't imagine why you'd want such a higher handicap, when I returned to playing I wanted to be as low as I was before but my record was old and my form crap but based on what I told them of my previous record from a number of years ago was allocated accordingly. I can only assume he wasn't so upfront wheb he joined.
I've only played in it twice in 6months bit I know they don't adjust it no, as its always got different people playing its taken that your handicap should be accurate to your ability. Sadly this case is aside from that but is now going to be looked at.
D
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Just thought, if he shot 24 points for 9 holes off a 15 handicap, he was I assume 1 or 2 under par gross, well done for a 15 handicap, did he have any 'lucky' chip ins or silly long putts sunk that helped his score massively today ?
Hope the club gets it sorted.
Hope the club gets it sorted.
even worse sounds like he took the Money (again) and ran, did he stop to but you a drink?
User20204
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Just thought, if he shot 24 points for 9 holes off a 15 handicap, he was I assume 1 or 2 under par gross, well done for a 15 handicap, did he have any 'lucky' chip ins or silly long putts sunk that helped his score massively today ?
Hope the club gets it sorted.
I'm not great with stableford but wouldn't he get 8 shots so would only require 8 pars and a blob to get 24 points.
Wolf
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He did hole a monster birdie put on our 3rd hole. But then that's our index 3 hole and he hit it with a driver and SW... 😳Just thought, if he shot 24 points for 9 holes off a 15 handicap, he was I assume 1 or 2 under par gross, well done for a 15 handicap, did he have any 'lucky' chip ins or silly long putts sunk that helped his score massively today ?
Hope the club gets it sorted.
Par 5 7th, Driver and 6 iron to 20 feet just missed the Eagle putt, ironically missed the birdie putt from 3 feet coming back to 😂. Then on our 9th stuck his approach to 2foot despite having to hit a massive draw around the trees for his 2nd shot...
even worse sounds like he took the Money (again) and ran, did he stop to but you a drink?
That's what annoyed me most I ended buying the rounds 😂
