Are you right wing?

[SocketRocket]

Nobody should be afraid of declaring themselves right wing (whatever that means) - but those who do, and who support policies that knowingly and deliberately impact negatively on the poorest and most vulnerable of society, should be honest about that - and not pretend to themselves and others that the policies are fair and equitable and that it's OK for the poorest and most vulnerable to suffer as they will and do.

I dont think any reasonable person would wish to impact negatively on the poorest and most vunerable in society. There is a qualifier here though and thats people who are poor and vunerable but making their best efforts to support themselves. There are people that are supported who are capable of supporting themselves but choose not to. Do you believe we should be supporting these people? Does holding this view make me right wing.

 

[Orikoru]

I play golf with plenty of Left of centre folk .... 2 former teachers, a 30 yr old working in insurance, a solicitor and other

Plenty of folk right of centre too... conservative "with small c" ...

Definitions are also interesting... the guys above would call Tony Blair "right of centre!"

There seems to be a trend in popular culture that "Right" is wrong and "Left" is ok. Funny that.

Largely due to clowns like Tommy Robinson disguising their hatred as simple right wing politics. Everything is polarised in the social media age - if you're slightly left-leaning you're a hippie and if you're right-leaning then you're in the EDL.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I’m left of centre ..

Not extreme left wing but defo lean that way

For example the tories keep increasing the tax free allowance .. did my bbc calculator ... after the NI increase (£29 ish a month) the increase in tax free allowance for me as a 40% tax payer worked out about £70 a month so net £41 a month extra in my pay. The wife gets about £10 extra net

Whilst £50 pcm in the house is nice it’s getting just stupid now.. why not use this money for something else? I’m sure there are projects within the budget that could use the funding.. stop throwing money at me to try win my vote. I’d rather it helped someone in need

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Yes I am right wing in that I vote Conservative. My ex-MP was excellent, and his replacement was born and raised in the constituency and is also doing a good job.

The local borough council is also overwhelmingly Conservative and likewise they are doing a good job - so no need to vote for anyone else.

I was in Australia for the 1997 election and didn't vote, but would have voted Labour and Blair as I believed that is what the country needed at the time.

On my return to the UK in 1998 I went and worked directly for a Labour Cabinet Minister, and did so for him and his successors for about 6 years.

After witnessing at first hand the shocking abuse of the public purse by 2 of the Labour Cabinet Ministers I worked for (the other was great); the bile, vitriol and backstabbing that went on (all of which I've been told was far worse than what went on under the Conservatives both before and since) and the way they politicised certain elements of the civil service, I won't vote Labour ever again.

 

[Sweep]

I’m left of centre ..

Not extreme left wing but defo lean that way

For example the tories keep increasing the tax free allowance .. did my bbc calculator ... after the NI increase (£29 ish a month) the increase in tax free allowance for me as a 40% tax payer worked out about £70 a month so net £41 a month extra in my pay. The wife gets about £10 extra net

Whilst £50 pcm in the house is nice it’s getting just stupid now.. why not use this money for something else? I’m sure there are projects within the budget that could use the funding.. stop throwing money at me to try win my vote. I’d rather it helped someone in need

This is the big and most traditional split between left and right of centre politics. The left stands by “tax high, spend high”. The right prefers allowing people to keep more of the money they have earned, based on the premise that if people see that working harder is worthwhile in wages, they will earn more and therefore pay more tax.
After all, you are not a 40% tax payer because you can’t be bothered going out to work. You have done well and clearly work hard. I accept your view that more could be done for those in need, but for me that needs to come by spending tax revenue more wisely. I don’t really think it’s right for any government to take say half or more of a workers earnings. Let’s remember, to be a 40% tax payer does not mean you are filthy rich.

 

[Imurg]

I've got splinters........

 

[bluewolf]

Centre Left but probably appear far left to some on here.

 

[Robster59]

I'm left of centre and always have been but I would agree that at the moment I would struggle to know who to vote for. In my opinion, Labour is just a pivot for Corbyn who is only concerned about getting in to power and bringing on an election irrespective of the impact on the country and has silenced all his critics around him leaving him with a puppet shadow cabinet. Lib Dem credibility plummeted in the coalition and for the Conservatives, I can't think of anyone who I would want to have in over May.
I think you tend to find that on forums, like in the media, the extremists are the ones who shout the loudest so get more visibility whilst those either side of centre tend not to be as loud or self-promoting and so get overshadowed by those on the far sides of any divide.
As far as I am concerned you vote whichever way you believe in but I remember two great examples of peoples view

• I was having a political debate with my friends when one of them said "anyway, you can't talk, you vote conservative". "No, I don't" I say. His response? "You must do, you've bought your own house!".
• Another woman who I worked with voted conservative because, and I quote, "apart from the council estate behind us it's quite a nice area".

 

[Grant85]

I am definitely not right wing. Moderately left of centre on some issues (taxation, economy, healthcare etc) and a bit further left on other issues (criminal justice, drugs).

We can debate the merits of who is the best driver of a bus to promote left wing politics and ideals, but Irvine Welsh said it best;



[B]Irvine Welsh[/B]

When you're not doing so well, vote for a better life for yourself. If you are doing quite nicely, vote for a better life for others.
11:40 AM - 7 May 2015

 

[Liverbirdie]

Centre left, Christian Democrat, Druze Falange, champagne socialism.

Never voted to Tory or liberal, but would consider both for local politics, although labour dont help themselves at times.

For:-
Curb on previous immigration levels, but in favour of it on the whole.
Looking after the needy, aged, vulnerable.
Getting work-shy doleites who can "work" to be assigned to the local council for certain tasks - if they dont do it, no money.
Getting company directors/ rich tax dodgers to also be jailed or massively fined for cheating of the tax man, and also some community service alongside the doleites.
Transport for the north and redistribution of wealth/services/infrastructure to the north in general.

Party politics should be replaced by non-aligned individuals to come together and make Britain great again, a bit like the war cabinets of the time - lets give it a go for 10 years, go back to party politics if it doesnt work - pipe dream, I know.

I wish people wouldnt keep banging on (or believing) that Labour will do what they did in the 1970's - its nearly 50 years ago now - do Labour bang on about stuff from the 1920's/1930's with the tory party?

Overall "Bill Shankly" Socialism would see us envied the world over.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I dont think any reasonable person would wish to impact negatively on the poorest and most vunerable in society. There is a qualifier here though and thats people who are poor and vunerable but making their best efforts to support themselves. There are people that are supported who are capable of supporting themselves but choose not to. Do you believe we should be supporting these people? Does holding this view make me right wing.

LOL - that from one of the group who accept that leaving the EU will have a negative impact on the poorest and most vulnerable of our society but deem that a price worth paying. Of course this is OK as it's only going to be in the short term - so what's that 1yr, 2yrs, 5yrs? - and in any case, they are not part of those who will be hurt - until they - in their shock and horror - find that they are.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I'm left of centre and always have been but I would agree that at the moment I would struggle to know who to vote for. In my opinion, Labour is just a pivot for Corbyn who is only concerned about getting in to power and bringing on an election irrespective of the impact on the country and has silenced all his critics around him leaving him with a puppet shadow cabinet. Lib Dem credibility plummeted in the coalition and for the Conservatives, I can't think of anyone who I would want to have in over May.
I think you tend to find that on forums, like in the media, the extremists are the ones who shout the loudest so get more visibility whilst those either side of centre tend not to be as loud or self-promoting and so get overshadowed by those on the far sides of any divide.
As far as I am concerned you vote whichever way you believe in but I remember two great examples of peoples view

• I was having a political debate with my friends when one of them said "anyway, you can't talk, you vote conservative". "No, I don't" I say. His response? "You must do, you've bought your own house!".
• Another woman who I worked with voted conservative because, and I quote, "apart from the council estate behind us it's quite a nice area".

Snap - centre left but currently with no home - at least those north of the border do have a very significant 3rd option that those south of it don't.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

This is the big and most traditional split between left and right of centre politics. The left stands by “tax high, spend high”. The right prefers allowing people to keep more of the money they have earned, based on the premise that if people see that working harder is worthwhile in wages, they will earn more and therefore pay more tax.
After all, you are not a 40% tax payer because you can’t be bothered going out to work. You have done well and clearly work hard. I accept your view that more could be done for those in need, but for me that needs to come by spending tax revenue more wisely. I don’t really think it’s right for any government to take say half or more of a workers earnings. Let’s remember, to be a 40% tax payer does not mean you are filthy rich.

I’m a firm believer in the needs of the many outway the needs of the few (live long and prosper lol)

However on the complete flip side I like big businesses like tesco because I believe they provide so many jobs for others. For example a tesco express opens up.. the local shop keeper suffers yes but how many jobs does that one shop provide? Supporting how many family’s

Just my 10 pennies worth

 

[SocketRocket]

LOL - that from one of the group who accept that leaving the EU will have a negative impact on the poorest and most vulnerable of our society but deem that a price worth paying. Of course this is OK as it's only going to be in the short term - so what's that 1yr, 2yrs, 5yrs? - and in any case, they are not part of those who will be hurt - until they - in their shock and horror - find that they are.

All posts lead to Brexit
You misrepresent my comments again, please comment on what I say as opposed to what you want it to be. I have ALWAYS said that we should support the genuinely vulnerable in our society and I see no reason why that would be any different after Brexit. Also I am not a member of any group, I always talk for myself.
So here's a little challenge for you, show me where I have said we should not support the genuine poorest and vulnerable in our society and I will gladly apologise to you. Otherwise I await an apology from you.

 

[Mrs Wiggles]

Largely due to clowns like Tommy Robinson disguising their hatred as simple right wing politics. Everything is polarised in the social media age - if you're slightly left-leaning you're a hippie and if you're right-leaning then you're in the EDL.

Tommy Robinson is NOT clown, he is an actual fact very clever, albeit he was a bit of a rogue when younger. His knowledge of the Qaran is amazing, and he knows the book back to front. I also have read a lot of the Qaran, and can thus understand his fears regarding Islam. I suggest you spend the time to read his book "Enemy of the state" and you may well change your mind. In the meantime sit back and watch this, you may learn something

 

[GB72]

I would describe myself as centre right. Generally vote conservative but would vote for a centre left labour party over and extreme right conservative. With the demise of the liberals, however, there is a real lack of centre politics around and we could soon have a left/right divide not seen since the Thatcher/Kinnock days.

 

[Mrs Wiggles]

I would describe myself as centre right. Generally vote conservative but would vote for a centre left labour party over and extreme right conservative. With the demise of the liberals, however, there is a real lack of centre politics around and we could soon have a left/right divide not seen since the Thatcher/Kinnock days.

I would agree with you. The vast majority of people I know have moved further to the right in the last ten years, and this includes myself. The remainder, although a relatively small minority, have moved left. Of course, this won't stop right wing believers voting Labour, because they have always voted labour, and their father before them etc etc etc

 

[Deleted member 1147]

... His knowledge of the Qaran is amazing, and he knows the book back to front. I also have read a lot of the Qaran,

You & he both read Arabic?

 

[Mrs Wiggles]

You & he both read Arabic?

So you weren't aware of the translated version of the Quran by George Sale.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

So you weren't aware of the translated version of the Quran by George Sale.

You ain't read the Qu'ran unless you've read it in Arabic.
It gets miss-translated and people take from it whatever suits their point of view!