Are you right wing?

[SocketRocket]

You ain't read the Qu'ran unless you've read it in Arabic.
It gets miss-translated and people take from it whatever suits their point of view!

Like the Bible then

 

[bluewolf]

Anyone who thinks that Yaxley-Lennon is anything but a low rent thug with a talent for separating uneducated racists from their hard earned minimum wage is quite clearly hard of learning.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Like the Bible then

Quite possibly

 

[richart]

I played right back as a youngster.

Other than that, I'm distinctly Liberal.

I played right back as well, when the goals dried up.

I am Liberal as well, though I did get confused when they changed their name.

Been voting for 40 years and never picked the winning team, including EU vote

 

[Hacker Khan]

An observation on another thread suggests that this forum is predominantly right wing. Is it? Without doubt there's some very strong characters but does that make them right wing or left wing? Some appear to perceive that if someone is strong on law and order they must be right wing. Does that mean Labour and LibDems might be anarchists?

In my 40+ years of voting I've voted for all 3 of the major parties. The votes cast have been based on 2 things, 1) current performance, whether in power or opposition, and 2) the manifesto on offer.

In the late 70's it was get rid of Labour at all costs. Growing up seeing report after report of strikes, 3 day weeks and power cuts. Arthur Scargill helped me decide on the Tories. As the Tories yo-yo'd further right my vote went to the Liberals, and then to Toxic Tony. What a great time New Labour brought to politics. Some great changes and increases in wealth for the working class. But then there were broken promises, e.g. university tuition fees. Toxic Tony said no way, yet it was one of the first changes. The invasion of Iraq and WMD... And my votes went to the LibDems again. Cue Gordon and spend spend spend, and my vote went to the Tories once again.

I thought David Cameron's early years, like Toxic Tony's, were good. But look where we are now, and just look at the choices!

A Tory vote? No. A Labour vote? Oh please, no. A LibDem vote? Who are they and what do they stand for?

Am I right wing? In some areas yes. My views on policing and sentencing are definitely right wing. But what about my views on taxes, benefits and healthcare? Definitely left wing. Liberal? Mmm, there's still a bit in there but I'm not sure where I stand on change. Old people shouldn't vote LibDem, its for young, long haired, thick wool jumper wearing yoghurt knitters. Harsh, and just for fun really. I do wish the LibDems would get their act together, but that could be said of all 3 parties at present.

Is the forum right wing?

I think just purely down to statistics, if the core users are golf club members then on average they will be more conservative in their views, if that is the definition of right wing. Same if you were on a teachers forum as statistically there would be more left wing views expressed on that.

Whilst some may not believe it, I do quite enjoy it when you get a good sensible argument for say right wing or brexit views as it helps people like me who may not share a lot of those views understand. What does wind me up is when people just seem to have a dogmatic completely one sided view, often taken wholesale from certain media, with little questioning of it. I think politicians/parties often rely on little critical questioning of what they say to their more traditional voters. Where as I'd argue that in a healthy democracy an element of questioning should always be there. I am really scared we just go down the US route of one V the other with virtually no compromise or acknowledgement that there could be good things from both sides.

As for my voting then normally liberal in local elections and green for the EU parliament. But I have voted Labour occasionally in the past when we had a really good local MP who worked for the community. I probably have voted Tory back in the 80s, but not since then.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

All posts lead to Brexit
You misrepresent my comments again, please comment on what I say as opposed to what you want it to be. I have ALWAYS said that we should support the genuinely vulnerable in our society and I see no reason why that would be any different after Brexit. Also I am not a member of any group, I always talk for myself.
So here's a little challenge for you, show me where I have said we should not support the genuine poorest and vulnerable in our society and I will gladly apologise to you. Otherwise I await an apology from you.

It is clear that many who are the most ardent Leave supporters - especially those who promote a No Deal as the best deal - accept that there will be at least a short term impact on the economy, and they struggle to deny that it would be the poorest and most vulnerable who will suffer. Yet they will say that that economic impact - and hence that suffering of others - is a price worth paying for regaining control - sovereignty.

And this it seems to me to reflect one core philosophy of many right wing policies, the end justifies the means - even if the means includes inflicting or results in suffering or hardship on the poorest and most vulnerable in our society (see recent Tory policy of George Osborne filed under A)

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I would agree with you. The vast majority of people I know have moved further to the right in the last ten years, and this includes myself. The remainder, although a relatively small minority, have moved left. Of course, this won't stop right wing believers voting Labour, because they have always voted labour, and their father before them etc etc etc

Maybe you and your friends need to keep going right - you'll end up in the sea off the Lincolnshire coast and then you'll turn into 'wets'

 

[Captainron]

I am definitely more conservative in my political view than alot of folk on here.

I am very anti Socialism /communism

 

[bluewolf]

I am definitely more conservative in my political view than alot of folk on here.

I am very anti Socialism /communism

I suspect that you needed your boys help to spell Socialism/Communism 😉

 

[louise_a]

They say that you go more right wing as you get older, but I have been the opposite, now I don't think my views have changed so maybe UK politics have moved more to the right

 

[SocketRocket]

It is clear that many who are the most ardent Leave supporters - especially those who promote a No Deal as the best deal - accept that there will be at least a short term impact on the economy, and they struggle to deny that it would be the poorest and most vulnerable who will suffer. Yet they will say that that economic impact - and hence that suffering of others - is a price worth paying for regaining control - sovereignty.

And this it seems to me to reflect one core philosophy of many right wing policies, the end justifies the means - even if the means includes inflicting or results in suffering or hardship on the poorest and most vulnerable in our society (see recent Tory policy of George Osborne filed under A)

I am correct then, you dont read my posts. Although you dont actually accuse me of being a rabid no deal peddler you do tend to use a generic form of address that suggests it. I have made it clear that my preferred option is to have a comprehensive free trade agreement with the EU but without being restricted by them in any other way. I dont know another way to explain that we should look after our genuinely vunerable people after Brexit but you seem to have the all brexiteers are nasty people filters on again.
Still waitiing for you to show some evidence.

 

[Wolf]

Never actually sat and thought about which side of the political fence I sit, I've voted for all 3 major parties for varying reasons at the time. But I would say nowadays with the way things stand I'm probably pretty much on the fence with my feet dangling on the left side. Oh and as for that Bword I voted remain...

 

[MegaSteve]

I tend to vote for the candidate who I feel is best for the job on the ballot paper in front of me irrespective of what colour rosette that adorns them... Seems to fit in with my anti establishment views...

 

[Mrs Wiggles]

Never actually sat and thought about which side of the political fence I sit, I've voted for all 3 major parties for varying reasons at the time. But I would say nowadays with the way things stand I'm probably pretty much on the fence with my feet dangling on the left side. Oh and as for that Bword I voted remain...

I think you may be the only remainer in Lincolnshire, well done

 

[Wolf]

I think you may be the only remainer in Lincolnshire, well done

I certainly don't need a well done from someone who hold views similar to yourself as shown on the other thread, if anything it shows that I voted the right way and didn't do so based solely on immigration.

 

[Mrs Wiggles]

I certainly don't need a well done from someone who hold views similar to yourself as shown on the other thread, if anything it shows that I voted the right way and didn't do so based solely on immigration.

I would love you to visit my local, you would then appreciate how moderate my views are.

 

[KenL]

I have mainly voted Lib-Dem in elections but now I vote for however I feel has the biggest chance of defeating the SNP candidate!

 

[Mrs Wiggles]

Anyone who thinks that Yaxley-Lennon is anything but a low rent thug with a talent for separating uneducated racists from their hard earned minimum wage is quite clearly hard of learning.

No doubt written by someone who knows little about him. Yes, as a youngster he was very much a product of the town he was brought up in. He has spent much time educating himself, and is now attempting to share his wisdom with those wise enough to listen. Those who aren't wise enough, you better apologise to your grand children now.

 

[Wolf]

I would love you to visit my local, you would then appreciate how moderate my views are.

I'd rather spend time inserting wasps up my backside than spend anytime with you in your local based on your views on this and your own thread.. I prefer to spend my time with people that understand the difference between extremism, religion and with people that are decent human beings.

No doubt written by someone who knows little about him. Yes, as a youngster he was very much a product of the town he was brought up in. He has spent much time educating himself, and is now attempting to share his wisdom with those wise enough to listen. Those who aren't wise enough, you better apologise to your grand children now.

I;d be more inclined to apologize to my grandchildren that there are people with views such as the ones you seem to openly hold on recent posts...

 

[bluewolf]

No doubt written by someone who knows little about him. Yes, as a youngster he was very much a product of the town he was brought up in. He has spent much time educating himself, and is now attempting to share his wisdom with those wise enough to listen. Those who aren't wise enough, you better apologise to your grand children now.

Ok, I strongly suspect that when our grandchildren are in school and are looking back on this particular part of our history, they're not going to be discussing my part in this, but they are going to spend a long time discussing your views. And they're not going to be kind.

And once again, I'm going to ask. Which political party best represents your views? I'm finding it quite interesting that you won't answer.

Also, I may have missed it, but I haven't seen you post anything golf related. Are you only here for the politics?