HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
That would depend on how good the developer was, it is very easy to write encryption software that is insecure.
Apple v FBI
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That would depend on how good the developer was, it is very easy to write encryption software that is insecure.
Tashyboy
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Well now the FBI have managed to break into the phone, wonder if this is going to start another months arguing of how and who did it.
off to ASDA to buy me popcorn.
off to ASDA to buy me popcorn.
Perhaps this solution suits all parties. Apple were not compliant, the FBI get into the phone.
jp5
Q-School Graduate
Not sure it suits Apple as it's now been shown there is a security vulnerability which they aren't aware of! Think they should have complied with the FBI's request in the first place.
Is any software 100% safe? They can only make it as safe as is possible but there will always be a hacker out there who can crack a code. A bit like car theft or burglary really. They can stop 99.9999999% of people, you can never stop the elite thieves. Apple have shown their phone is secure to most people and it is probably the most secure out in the market at the moment. They can do no more. In their view they have taken the moral ground, argue about that but that is their perspective, and the phone security has stood up pretty well.
Jimaroid
Journeyman Pro
This is very interesting now. It's showed the FBI up as somewhat incompetent and proves that what they were asking for was the wrong thing in the first place. Oops!
OMG!
The FBI might know I'm having mince for tea. Hope our lass has put extra on just in case we get raided.
How many million calls and texts are made every minute? Do you honestly think the FBI listens randomly?
OMG! The criminals might get hold of the software key! Great, they might know I have an account with Barctander, but they don't know my password or pin or DOB.
The FBI might know I'm having mince for tea. Hope our lass has put extra on just in case we get raided.
How many million calls and texts are made every minute? Do you honestly think the FBI listens randomly?
OMG! The criminals might get hold of the software key! Great, they might know I have an account with Barctander, but they don't know my password or pin or DOB.
Kellfire
Blackballed
You're missing the point, Brian. Just because we have nothing to hide doesn't mean that someone should have free scope to look.
I'm not missing the point at all. I genuinely don't care if they listen in on my calls. If I'm happy to hold a conversation in a crowded pub with someone, would I care if they listened in to my phone conversations?
if it's something personal I'll do it face to face anyway.
Now if it was freedom to bug my home I'd be jumping up and down, seriously jumping up and down. But as for my phone, not bothered in the slightest.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
But for most people now, if you wanted some data or information for nefarious purposes, you would get much more by looking on someones phone or tablet than you would by looking at a camera image of someone sat on their sofa watching golf on Sky Sports 4.
bluewolf
Money List Winner
I'm glad it doesn't concern you, but it concerns me greatly. Especially when you consider what information people can get from modern, GPS enabled phones.
Just because I have nothing to hide, doesn't mean that I trust faceless entities with all my information.
Ethan
Money List Winner
So the headline is that the FBI now admits that it did what it could always have done but said that it couldn't because it didn't want to admit it before?
Crawfy
Tour Rookie
I reckon they took it to that wee guy up the High St who can unlock anything for a tenner...
Tashyboy
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I reckon they took it to that wee guy up the High St who can unlock anything for a tenner...
Yup like when they eventually found Bin Laden, he was at home. Why did they not knock on his front door in the first place.
larmen
Head Pro
They probably got that well before the FBI hacked the iPhone.
Should we have a guess if the FBI has actually found something useful on that phone? It might just be a big fuss for nothing in the 1st place.
Simbo
Tour Rookie
There's no way the FBI don't have access to someone who could have got info from this phone long ago. Looks like they were just trying to shift the onus away from themselves by asking Apple to do it.
I agree with Apple here, the government were looking for an easy way to spy into people's phones with the blame lying somewhere away from themselves, using a terrorist atrocity as an excuse. They be telling everyone "we only want to do it with terrorists" etc. Once they have the backdrop and the law on their side there will be 2 bit street pounding cops hacking into corner hanging drug dealers phones.
I agree with Apple here, the government were looking for an easy way to spy into people's phones with the blame lying somewhere away from themselves, using a terrorist atrocity as an excuse. They be telling everyone "we only want to do it with terrorists" etc. Once they have the backdrop and the law on their side there will be 2 bit street pounding cops hacking into corner hanging drug dealers phones.
Jacko_G
Blackballed
Great news, hopefully prevents further atrocities and serious crimes. When it comes to a nations security I'm happy to support the authorities using whatever means to protect my family and friends and myself.
:thup:
:thup:
Tashyboy
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Seems like the FBI have agreed to open another phone.
Am getting fat on the popcorn.
Am getting fat on the popcorn.
Tashyboy
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Just fat
yes honest burp.
