Does positive thinking help combat illness?

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Thank you for those last 2 lines. When my Dad passed he was diagnosed on 16th December and was gone on 1st February. The doctor actually commented that he took all of the bad news with hsi usual stoic good humour. That does not mean he did not fight, what he did do was accept that this was one that he could not win and so he put his affairs in order and faced the inevitable with as little suffering as possible to himself and his family. The thought that some may see that as not 'fighting bravely' or in some way as being weak annoyed and still annoys the hell out of me.
It was very brave of him.
 

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Spoke to Missis T just now about this. she said “ Yes, definitely”. I said “yeah but would the outcome Not be the same”. She is adamant no. A negative person struggles To get out of bed, no motivation, lounges about all day. The chance of chest infections etc increases. They moan, are an energy vampire to others. Positive people get up, get out and do things. They sometimes have a different outlook before they became close to the grim reaper. Maybe you could become a Blue, Billy ?
As Daft as it seems my motivation is death. Ave seen to many folk leave Mother Earth to early.
My motto “Leave this life full of memories, not dreams”. Getting out of bed helps create memories.
 

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When he did the finger job he said not to worry, but it's not unusual to get a little excited . I told him that I'm not likely to get excited, he said he meant him not me! ??
Yup. Because Missis T worked with Urology she gave me a word by word account of what would happen when he/Dr stuck his finger up me Jacksy. You have to lay on this side coz it’s easier as the bowel goes a certain way etc ? am sure I felt his watch ticking.
Not me finest drs appointment. ?
 

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Yup. Because Missis T worked with Urology she gave me a word by word account of what would happen when he/Dr stuck his finger up me Jacksy. You have to lay on this side coz it’s easier as the bowel goes a certain way etc ? am sure I felt his watch ticking.
Not me finest drs appointment. ?

Nowhere near as bad as the taking of biopsies!
 

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Yep. Sure made my eyes water.

I tried, and managed, to laugh my way through it. I asked the guy doing it whether when he was at 6th form at his school did he ever visualise sitting in front of someone's nether regions, snipping small pieces of their innards and putting them in containers as a job? I shouldn't have asked at that point as he laughed and moved the snipper and it hurt !
 

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I tried, and managed, to laugh my way through it. I asked the guy doing it whether when he was at 6th form at his school did he ever visualise sitting in front of someone's nether regions, snipping small pieces of their innards and putting them in containers as a job? I shouldn't have asked at that point as he laughed and moved the snipper and it hurt !

It’s amazing what you find to talk about when someone is rummaging around back there ?
 

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The statistic of 1 in 8 is misleading, as the surgeons and specialist nursing staff I have spoken to unanimously say many men have prostate cancer which remains undetected, and causes them no obvious symptoms.

I know we’re straying slightly off topic here, but I can’t stress enough the importance of early screening. I agree PSA can be unreliable as a guide, but equally it can be the first clue something is wrong. I had no symptoms and a friend of mine, recently diagnosed, also without symptoms, only asked his GP for PSA screening as a result of my situation.

Prostate cancer, despite some of the suggestions to the contrary, is very treatable is caught early. Beyond that it’s merely manageable. There’s a big difference between the two.

Get checked out if you can fellas - I mean it.
 

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The statistic of 1 in 8 is misleading, as the surgeons and specialist nursing staff I have spoken to unanimously say many men have prostate cancer which remains undetected, and causes them no obvious symptoms.

I know we’re straying slightly off topic here, but I can’t stress enough the importance of early screening. I agree PSA can be unreliable as a guide, but equally it can be the first clue something is wrong. I had no symptoms and a friend of mine, recently diagnosed, also without symptoms, only asked his GP for PSA screening as a result of my situation.

Prostate cancer, despite some of the suggestions to the contrary, is very treatable is caught early. Beyond that it’s merely manageable. There’s a big difference between the two.

Get checked out if you can fellas - I mean it.
Can I ask how you found out about yours (sorry if I missed that earlier in the thread) if you had no symptoms? How do I get a PSA (need to look up what that is)? The BBC article mentions a blood test picking up something wrong but didn't give any specifics. I'm now mid 50's so feel like this is something I might need to pay attention to (no symptoms, I've got up in the middle of the night to pee almost all my life, I guess I need to worry if it happens more often).
 

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Can I ask how you found out about yours (sorry if I missed that earlier in the thread) if you had no symptoms? How do I get a PSA (need to look up what that is)? The BBC article mentions a blood test picking up something wrong but didn't give any specifics. I'm now mid 50's so feel like this is something I might need to pay attention to (no symptoms, I've got up in the middle of the night to pee almost all my life, I guess I need to worry if it happens more often).

I was being checked out for other stuff and my GP did my PSA just to be sure. That started the process when my results were borderline.

It stands for prostate specific antigen, and the higher the number identified via a simple blood test, the more your GP needs to investigate via referrals to urologists.

My view is that routine PSA screening should be available to all over 50’s. If you’re mid 50’s insist on it. Many GP’s are reluctant for whatever reason, but breast cancer screening is routine for women over 50, and has been for years.

I have heard of GP’s saying it’s “impossible” for men under 50 to develop PCa - that’s absolute tosh. My mate was 47 when he had surgery, and I know of blokes younger than that.
 

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Don't think because you're a strong bloke you can defeat prostate cancer by positive thinking and exercise.

If you have any unusual issues with your urinary habits like going more frequently and it lasts for more than a couple of weeks then speak to your doctor or call the PC helpline.
If the doctor suspects PC and your PSA is over 5 you will be referred to a urologist.
If the urologist suspects cancer you will be sent for tests which include scans.
If the tests reveal cancer the next person you sit in front of will be an oncologist who is there to SAVE YOUR LIFE.

And that's all you need to know.
(15 years a survivor of stage 4).
 
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I’m not sure anyone has suggested cancer of any sort can be beaten by positive thinking and exercise alone. I’m certainly not.

What was suggested to me by my surgeon was that a positive outlook more than likely assisted my treatment.
 
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The idea that aspirin can be of benefit as mentioned in your original post is not new.
Here is an extract from a recent report.
"The pooled results showed that PC patients who used aspirin or taking aspirin did not have lower PCSM than those who had not used".
(PC Specific Mortality).

Other post op treatments are available.
You could for instance try the healing power of crystals.
There is zero evidence they work, but they might act like a placebo.
As in the case of valium for trauma, which only works when you know you are taking it.

My advice is this:
If you are a smoker then stop right now. Not tomorrow but now.
It's always better not to consume alcohol.
Without having any special diet reduce what you eat.
Go for long walks to get the right amount of oxygen into your cells.
Walking also helps you think positive.
There is quite probably value to be had from meditation.
Unlikely though it seems, studies have shown that it actually helps protect your cells.

Do you know how many years you need to survive the radical surgery without any further issues before you are given the all clear?
This information can be obtained from your local PC support group or national helpline.
 
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