Andy Vs Roger

colint said:
I don't think he should quit, he's making a great living and 4th best is an achievment, I just don't see why there's this continual "he'll win one soon" attitude when all of the evidence says he won't
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What evidence is that then. Ivan Lendl won 15 grand slams, he also lost his 1st 4 final appearances
 
colint said:
Almost as bizarre as not reading posts properly. I stated Fed is past his best, that's a fact based on his results. I stated the top 3 are too good, that's a fact based on results
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How is Federer being past his best a fact when he has just won Wimbledon and regained world no.1 while beating the former number one in the process? Your posts are your OPINION not fact. You're entitled to your opinion but please don't claim it as fact
 
In the end, the best player on the day won. No shame at all for Andy Murray - he played some fantastic tennis in the first two sets, and he should take consolation from the fact that he was more than a match for the greatest player to have played the game for long periods of time. I am confident that he will win a grand slam - he certainly has the defensive game and serve for it - probably just needs a bit more on the attacking side of it and he'll come through.

Thought at the end both Federer and Murray showed a lot of class in their interviews. Really felt for Murray, and you could see just how much he wanted it. Hope he doesn't feel too down for long and picks himself up for the US Open.

But what about Federer? The guy is just a joy to watch and his game and the shots he plays are just amazing - even more so when you see his action in slow motion. Hope he wins at least 1 more Wimbledon before he retires as he deserves to be out there on his own in terms of Wimbledon's won.
 
This is hilarious...

You state facts, ie never won and not in top 3. But then you use these to predict the future.

Deluded.com
 
I would imagine that Dorset has more indoor tennis centres and tennis clubs than Scotland.
For the record Scotland has 13 indoor tennis centres [only 8 open to the public] and less than 80 tennis clubs.

The LTA have been throwing £millions at tennis development in England for about 40 years and the best they came up with was Nice but Tim.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
How is Federer being past his best a fact when he has just won Wimbledon and regained world no.1 while beating the former number one in the process? Your posts are your OPINION not fact. You're entitled to your opinion but please don't claim it as fact
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He's won 1 slam in over 2.5 years, his longest ever gap.That proves he's past his best, or maybe you'd like to argue that it proves he's approaching is peak ?
 
colint said:
He's won 1 slam in over 2.5 years, his longest ever gap.That proves he's past his best, or maybe you'd like to argue that it proves he's approaching is peak ?
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To be honest not sure why I'm replying to you at all. You clearly have all the facts and ca predict the future so my opinion is futile.

It must be really boring knowing what is going to happen all the time.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
To be honest not sure why I'm replying to you at all. You clearly have all the facts and ca predict the future so my opinion is futile.

It must be really boring knowing what is going to happen all the time.
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This.

A lesson to us all. If you haven't achieved something by 25, then don't even bother trying, it's not going to happen...... :mad:
 
You gotta love the net. A perfectly innocent thread so easily changes into a bit of a slanging match about...mainly...opinion.

I may be soft but warmed so much to Andy when he showed some emotion and how much the support has meant to him. He needs to learn from the Top 3 though and not let his shoulders slump so visibly. On the other side of the net that would lift me for sure.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
To be honest not sure why I'm replying to you at all. You clearly have all the facts and ca predict the future so my opinion is futile.

It must be really boring knowing what is going to happen all the time.
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Colint, any chance of some lottery numbers mate?
 
I'm not one for getting angry on the forum, hurling abuse etc etc but colint you are pushing me in that direction mainly because you are so obtuse. At this moment in time we have the greatest player EVER and the greatest clay court player EVER. I would never claim that Murray was a match for either Nadal or Federer. Then again neither was Djokovic two years ago and look at him now. Murray's best surface is hard court and the Open most experts predict will be where he breaks his duck is the US. The two deciding moments of that match were two points of sublime brilliance in the final game of the second set and closing the roof. This was a much better performance by Murray in a major final and I think it's a matter of time before he wins one and that will be his springboard to winning more BUT he has to keep improving.
 
On a lighter note, nice to see Mrs Beckham smiling away and enjoying herself............;) :) Obviously realised early on that she wasn't going to get much camera time with the Middleton sisters and Murray's girlfriend in attendance!!
 
Tiger said:
I'm not one for getting angry on the forum, hurling abuse etc etc but colint you are pushing me in that direction mainly because you are so obtuse. At this moment in time we have the greatest player EVER and the greatest clay court player EVER. I would never claim that Murray was a match for either Nadal or Federer. Then again neither was Djokovic two years ago and look at him now. Murray's best surface is hard court and the Open most experts predict will be where he breaks his duck is the US. The two deciding moments of that match were two points of sublime brilliance in the final game of the second set and closing the roof. This was a much better performance by Murray in a major final and I think it's a matter of time before he wins one and that will be his springboard to winning more BUT he has to keep improving.
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Hutl abuse if it make you feel better Tiger. He doesn't just need to get better, he needs the top guys to decline as well, and also hope that some new blood doesn't appear. He needs a perfect storm and I can't see it coming
 
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