9 holes Matchplay - stroke index q

[HD44]

In a 9 hole matchplay format, how do you decide on the holes for which one player gets strokes over the other? I've seen two formats used and have no idea which is correct...

To help explain, lets set a scenario where player A receives 4 shots over 9 holes, and player B receives 11 shots over 9 holes. The difference between them is then 7 shots.
The 9 holes they are playing are the front 9 of an 18 hole course, so the stroke indexs are 1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17.

System 1: Player B gets a shot on the hardest 7 holes by stroke index, where you take stroke indexs 1,3,5,7,9,11,13 to add the shots to. This leads to a total of 7 shots given over the 9 holes.

System 2: Player B gets a shot on stroke index 1,3,5,7 as they are the only ones covered on the 9 holes they are playing. This leads to a total of 4 shots given over the 9 holes.

Any guidance greatly appreciated!

 

[wjemather]

Stoke indexes for 9 hole courses are assigned as numbers 1-9. If not published separately, numbers 1-9 should be assigned in order of how the stroke indexes are assigned for those holes on the 18 hole card. Strokes received are then allocated accordingly.

 

[rulie]

Stoke indexes for 9 hole courses are assigned as numbers 1-9. If not published separately, numbers 1-9 should be assigned in order of how the stroke indexes are assigned for those holes on the 18 hole card. Strokes received are then allocated accordingly.

The original post says it's an 18 hole course.

 

[rosecott]

In a 9 hole matchplay format, how do you decide on the holes for which one player gets strokes over the other? I've seen two formats used and have no idea which is correct...

To help explain, lets set a scenario where player A receives 4 shots over 9 holes, and player B receives 11 shots over 9 holes. The difference between them is then 7 shots.
The 9 holes they are playing are the front 9 of an 18 hole course, so the stroke indexs are 1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17.

System 1: Player B gets a shot on the hardest 7 holes by stroke index, where you take stroke indexs 1,3,5,7,9,11,13 to add the shots to. This leads to a total of 7 shots given over the 9 holes.

System 2: Player B gets a shot on stroke index 1,3,5,7 as they are the only ones covered on the 9 holes they are playing. This leads to a total of 4 shots given over the 9 holes.

Any guidance greatly appreciated!

In your scenario, are you saying that player A has a Front 9 9-hole Course Handicap of 4 and player B 11?

If so, and both are the same sex, then the difference is 7 strokes which player B will receive on the 7 lowest SIs on the front 9.

 

[wjemather]

The original post says it's an 18 hole course.

Yes, but...
An 18-hole course consists of two 9-hole courses. Presumably, the 9-hole match is being played over one of these two rated 9-hole courses.

 

[rulie]

Yes, but...
An 18-hole course consists of two 9-hole courses. Presumably, the 9-hole match is being played over one of these two rated 9-hole courses.

Our course consists of 18 holes.

 

[HD44]

The original post says it's an 18 hole course.

Yep correct, 18 hole course and there's no 9 hole SI guide, so just the odd SI numbers to use on the front 9 and the even SI numbers on the back 9

 

[HD44]

Yes, but...
An 18-hole course consists of two 9-hole courses. Presumably, the 9-hole match is being played over one of these two rated 9-hole courses.

That's right, it's an 18 hole course but the match is just played on the front 9

 

[HD44]

In your scenario, are you saying that player A has a Front 9 9-hole Course Handicap of 4 and player B 11?

If so, and both are the same sex, then the difference is 7 strokes which player B will receive on the 7 lowest SIs on the front 9.

Yeah correct, same sex / same tees, and the handicaps provided are for the front 9 only so the difference is 7 shots.

The difference over 18 holes would be 14 and player B would simply get a shot on SI 1-14

 

[HD44]

Stoke indexes for 9 hole courses are assigned as numbers 1-9. If not published separately, numbers 1-9 should be assigned in order of how the stroke indexes are assigned for those holes on the 18 hole card. Strokes received are then allocated accordingly.

Thanks so I guess that's in line with system A above, where you assign S.I. 1-9 in the order of S.I. difficulty on that 9 holes, so S.I. 1=1, 3=2, 5=3, 7=4, 9=5, 11=6 and 13=7

 

[wjemather]

Our course consists of 18 holes.

All 18-hole courses have their front and back 9s rated as 9-hole courses.

 

[rulefan]

All 18-hole courses have their front and back 9s rated as 9-hole courses.

But Rating has nothing to do with Stroke Indices.

 

[Neilds]

Thanks so I guess that's in line with system A above, where you assign S.I. 1-9 in the order of S.I. difficulty on that 9 holes, so S.I. 1=1, 3=2, 5=3, 7=4, 9=5, 11=6 and 13=7

This is the correct answer, ignore the other distracting comments

 

[rulefan]

WHS Manual Appendix E

Stroke Index Allocation for 9-Hole Play
The strokes received in a 9-hole format of play on an 18-hole golf course should be taken in ascending order from the published stroke index allocation for 18 holes.


Sample Stroke Index Allocations
Example 18-hole stroke index allocation
Hole
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
Stroke Index
7 15 5 11 1 13 3 17 9 8 16 6 12 2 14 4 18 10


Alternatively, the Handicap Committee may consider amending the stroke index allocation from 1 to 9, relative to the ascending order of the published stroke
index allocation for 18 holes.

When a Committee decides to amend an 18-hole stroke index allocation to create a 9-hole equivalent:
Example of an amended front nine 9-hole stroke index allocation
Hole
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Stroke Index
4 8 3 6 1 7 2 9 5

 

[Colin L]

in the first place, HD44's Committee has been neglectful in not determining and publishing a Stroke Index for the 9 hole course. Players should not be expected to make one up for their match. And if the SI of the front nine of his course was 1,3,5,7,9,11 13,15,17 as he said, it wouldn't matter in the slightest what they made up as they would be well used to an SI that made no sense.

 

[wjemather]

But Rating has nothing to do with Stroke Indices.

Where did I say it did?

 

[rulefan]

Where did I say it did?

So what was the relevance?

 

[wjemather]

So what was the relevance?

To the OP, no relevance whatsoever, but that wasn't what I was responding to.

 

[Alan Clifford]

Clandon Golf - England Golf

www.englandgolf.org

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