Neilds
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But you appear to be pushing back against itSo Rory has blamed mental and emotional wellbeing for pulling out of the tournament, one of those excuses you can’t really push back against for fear of reprisal
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Beezerk
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Bdill93
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So Rory has blamed mental and emotional wellbeing for pulling out of the tournament, one of those excuses you can’t really push back against for fear of reprisal
Obviously piling the pressure on himself to complete the grand slam - on top of the public pressure! Its a lot for one man to take - no matter who he is.
Id rather him be honest and open about it, its refreshing and with his profile it helps reduce that stigma around mental health.
doublebogey7
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Perhaps he felt his well being was worth more than the dollars. A lesson many of us should learn.So Rory has blamed mental and emotional wellbeing for pulling out of the tournament, one of those excuses you can’t really push back against for fear of reprisal
Beezerk
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Possibly, maybe he spat his dummy out and then used the mental health card as an excuse. I guess we’ll never know the truth.
Slab
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rksquire
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Hopefully he's okay.... but 2 weeks off will not sort Mental Health issues in the long term. I do believe he is a strong and capable person, prone (occasionally) to emotional overload and then coming back temporarily fixed, and this break & return is just that - disposal of some stress (partially self inflicted) and emotional burnout, but I don't really think (nor should anyone, particularly himself) it has dealt with his Mental Health issues.
But, having put himself (happily) in the position he did, he has to remain accountable - the public airing of mental health & wellbeing does not diminish that responsibility..... not necessarily to the public (although, why not?), but to his fellow professionals who have followed the rules. I also suspect Phil M has endured some Mental Health & Wellbeing issues in the past 18 months or more, although, as villain of the piece, that did not preclude him from comment by Rory and others, yet I suspect there will be little acknowledgement or sympathy for that.
I wish he would stop doing Monahans job ($3m from the Commissioners healthy salary & incentives for work completed could easily replace the lost PIP earnings... but I suspect given the 'reason' for skipping his 2nd event, it's unlikely the PIP will be withheld), stop spearheading the good guys (?) Golf Civil War effort, and just play golf preferably with a smile on his face - his responsibilities are to his family and playing Golf, he doesn't need to get involved in golf politics.
He still is my favorite golfer, and a great ambassador for NI, RoI, UK and Europe; his absence is the reason I had no interest in last weeks PGAT event, he's the reason I started playing golf etc., and I genuinely think he's a good guy at heart; he is charitable, ironically he's an ambassador for a Mental Health charity and others, he is honest (in the moment), and he's an entertaining watch.
Golf wise, it will be interesting to see how he plays, if this is the only time he plays before the US PGA.... so the pressure is on immediately to at least make the cut and then see what he can do over the weekend.
But, having put himself (happily) in the position he did, he has to remain accountable - the public airing of mental health & wellbeing does not diminish that responsibility..... not necessarily to the public (although, why not?), but to his fellow professionals who have followed the rules. I also suspect Phil M has endured some Mental Health & Wellbeing issues in the past 18 months or more, although, as villain of the piece, that did not preclude him from comment by Rory and others, yet I suspect there will be little acknowledgement or sympathy for that.
I wish he would stop doing Monahans job ($3m from the Commissioners healthy salary & incentives for work completed could easily replace the lost PIP earnings... but I suspect given the 'reason' for skipping his 2nd event, it's unlikely the PIP will be withheld), stop spearheading the good guys (?) Golf Civil War effort, and just play golf preferably with a smile on his face - his responsibilities are to his family and playing Golf, he doesn't need to get involved in golf politics.
He still is my favorite golfer, and a great ambassador for NI, RoI, UK and Europe; his absence is the reason I had no interest in last weeks PGAT event, he's the reason I started playing golf etc., and I genuinely think he's a good guy at heart; he is charitable, ironically he's an ambassador for a Mental Health charity and others, he is honest (in the moment), and he's an entertaining watch.
Golf wise, it will be interesting to see how he plays, if this is the only time he plays before the US PGA.... so the pressure is on immediately to at least make the cut and then see what he can do over the weekend.
AussieKB
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So he should have stayed on the Feeder Tour.....
AussieKB
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What an unbelievable statement from the USA CEO.
“I’m not concerned about not having the greatest players in the world,” Whan said Monday at U.S. Open media day.
“I’m not concerned about not having the greatest players in the world,” Whan said Monday at U.S. Open media day.
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Surely it’s best to have the whole statement
USGA CEO Mike Whan hopes Talor Gooch qualifies for U.S. Open, but no exemption
USGA CEO Mike Whan said he hopes Talor Gooch qualifies for the U.S. Open, but there won't be a special exemption.
www.golfchannel.com
“I’m not concerned about not having the greatest players in the world,” Whan said Monday at U.S. Open media day. “Any time we make changes to our criteria going forward it impacts somebody and that stinks, but we can only look forward.”
For this year’s championship, the association changed its qualifying criteria to include anyone who qualified for last year’s Tour Championship, which Gooch did, and was eligible, which he was not after he was suspended by the PGA Tour for playing the LIV circuit.
Whan said he understood Gooch’s plight and was hopeful he would play well enough at the PGA Championship to be among the top 60 on either May 22, the Monday after the PGA Championship, or June 5, the Monday after the Memorial, but Whan said the association has no plans to adjust its criteria.
“Of all the major championships there are no more open championships than the U.S. Open. Nobody provides less exempt spots and more open [qualifying] spots than us,” he said. “If you really want to play in the U.S. Open and you’re not in one of our exempt spots, you’ve got a chance to play. Nobody is keeping you out.”
Last year’s U.S. Open was held the week after the first LIV Golf event in London and at the time, Whan said there was no plan to purposely keep anyone out of the championship because of what tour they played.
“I hope [Gooch] gets in but we’re not going to change our criteria and I’m not concerned about the quality of the U.S. Open field,” Whan said. “Just like I said at last year’s U.S. Open, I don’t do 45 background checks on which tour you came from or who is your sponsor, if you’re good enough to get into our field we let you play.
“We have fewer exempt spots than the other majors and because of that we take more heat on, ‘Why didn’t this person just get a free pass [into the field].’ It’s a little more work to make it through U.S. Open qualifying but if you want to take it on, it’s available to you. We don’t say no to anyone at the door if you want to take a run at this.”
AussieKB
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He still said
“I’m not concerned about not having the greatest players in the world,” Whan said Monday at U.S. Open media day.
and you defend that .....
and why am I not surprised.
“I’m not concerned about not having the greatest players in the world,” Whan said Monday at U.S. Open media day.
and you defend that .....
and why am I not surprised.
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I have no issues with what he said in the context he said
Basically he is saying it’s an Open Competition and everyone can attempt to qualify and there is as minimal exemptions as possible so if some don’t qualify they he isn’t bothered by it
It’s an Open - if someone wanted to play in it so then they should qualify
Mel Smooth
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so one player, who qualified for the US Open, then took his own decision (knowing the repercussions) to take himself out of the field for the US Open...is now complaining that he can't play.
The below springs to mind
The below springs to mind
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Had to read this few times, is it referring to Gooch?
If so, am curious how you thought he would know that the exemptions would be changed many months in the future?
I don't recall "complaining he can't play", just it was frustrating that the exemption had been altered.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Anyway, has anyone seen or heard have Sky Sports gained access to the US Open golf ?
Recall some chat earlier in year that they hadn't secured it yet.
Recall some chat earlier in year that they hadn't secured it yet.
evemccc
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How pathetic is the BBC these days?!
I am not old - but can well remember when it broadcast and reported on the results and the outcome of sporting events…now it’s purely there to cheerlead and to try and influence opinion
In their ‘report’ on Quail Hollow, the article only refers to McIlroy, who is currently T16….not to the leader (Fleetwood, an Englishman) or those challenging for the lead —- seemingly according to them, if it’s not about Woods, it’s about Rory…and if it’s not about either, then it may as well not have happened
Utterly pathetic for a national broadcaster that claims to be neutral
I am not old - but can well remember when it broadcast and reported on the results and the outcome of sporting events…now it’s purely there to cheerlead and to try and influence opinion
In their ‘report’ on Quail Hollow, the article only refers to McIlroy, who is currently T16….not to the leader (Fleetwood, an Englishman) or those challenging for the lead —- seemingly according to them, if it’s not about Woods, it’s about Rory…and if it’s not about either, then it may as well not have happened
Utterly pathetic for a national broadcaster that claims to be neutral
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Swango1980
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The article was specifically about McIlroy, being newsworthy as he was making his return after taking his break.
The subject of the article was not the tournament itself.
They also do similar articles featuring other players, when those players are in the golfing headlines at the time.
If you are upset that the BBC doesn't cover all your golfing needs, then just go to a more dedicated golfing website. No need to spit your dummy out for something so trivial, that is pathetic
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
The article was specifically about McIlroy, being newsworthy as he was making his return after taking his break.
The subject of the article was not the tournament itself.
They also do similar articles featuring other players, when those players are in the golfing headlines at the time.
If you are upset that the BBC doesn't cover all your golfing needs, then just go to a more dedicated golfing website. No need to spit your dummy out for something so trivial, that is pathetic
Shame they don't have an article on the tournament itself though (they usually do)
evemccc
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The article was specifically about McIlroy, being newsworthy as he was making his return after taking his break.
The subject of the article was not the tournament itself.
They also do similar articles featuring other players, when those players are in the golfing headlines at the time.
If you are upset that the BBC doesn't cover all your golfing needs, then just go to a more dedicated golfing website. No need to spit your dummy out for something so trivial, that is pathetic
My word, you are the worst poster I’ve come across on here, by a mile
Usual childish jibes and snide remarks attached to inaccurate and wholly false comments…aside from any ‘opinion’ about an issue, your comments are just factually wrong
The first three words of the article’s title is ‘Wells Fargo Championship’ and it then describes his round..
If you want a broadcaster that cheerleads for your hero, and reports on what he had for breakfast rather than actually reports on who the leader is then that says rather a lot about you.
I see the sub-editor has come in to work now, as the article is not now on the Sport homepage
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