2022 Professional golf thread

It’s a term they seem to use a lot on the commentary and reviews.

I see it like this: ball in the middle of the fairway, good lie - player misses the green well wide and into the water - unforced error.
Ball in the rough, downhill lie - player misses the green well wide and into the water - forced error.

That seems to be how they explain it on TV ?
Thanks for having a go ?
As the same players hit it in the rough or the fairway then it doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah I've heard some of the US TV commentators using it also, but then I've also heard "it's gettable, so he's just gotta get it, get the next hole, & and then get it done " ?‍♂️ ?
 
Thanks for having a go ?
As the same players hit it in the rough or the fairway then it doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah I've heard some of the US TV commentators using it also, but then I've also heard "it's gettable, so he's just gotta get it, get the next hole, & and then get it done " ?‍♂️ ?

You’re welcome ? Andrew Coltart and the sky team use it a lot as well.

I get it, I do understand the idea of how they’re using the term, but I agree that I’d doesn’t necessarily describe the situation exactly - I suppose it’s a polite way of saying “he/she has made a right bollards of that shot” ?
 
Quick question now it’s the players- does anyone know how much the land was bought for as I can’t recall it being mentioned ??
 
Generally I think the greens were a smidge firmer than the course set up required. Everything else was spot on.

It needed players to adopt a US Open mindset, ie Par is good and pick up a birdie where possible.

American audiences expect golf like Basketball. A score (birdies) every 25 seconds or they nod off ;-)


More please!

Exactly - loved the challenge, how ''good'' par was and seeing who was resilient vs. the field. Was amazing to see Hatton totally out of it at one stage Saturday before posting a score and nearly getting a playoff.
 
Wasn't a fan. You can make my own Goat Track stupid hard if you want. There's no particular skill in that.
Links courses are designed to be hard, and to be played in wind. They offer width, angles, choices of how to approach the greens etc etc etc. Even in the toughest conditions, skill is rewarded.
Baking out a parkland course with stupid thick rough, narrow fairways and water everywhere rewards very little.
For the perspective of a whining pro on this, try the No Laying Up Bay Hill round up. It's interesting and thought provoking.
 
In a game where a players plays their own ball, can you explain what the difference is between an "error", and an "unforced error"? Who is doing the "forcing"?

I guess you argue the forcing is trying too hard to get it close/miles down the fairway to chase birdies especially if holes are running out whereas an error is just a poor swing. Don't really like the term and something that commentators are using too easily and regularly
 
Quick question now it’s the players- does anyone know how much the land was bought for as I can’t recall it being mentioned ??
Are you going to run a sweep? ?

I quite like the tournament, for one played on the same course every year.
But will the "5th major" chat outscore the "how much the land was bought for " , or will "Alice Dye designing the 17th" win through ? ?
 
Wasn't a fan. You can make my own Goat Track stupid hard if you want. There's no particular skill in that.
Links courses are designed to be hard, and to be played in wind. They offer width, angles, choices of how to approach the greens etc etc etc. Even in the toughest conditions, skill is rewarded.
Baking out a parkland course with stupid thick rough, narrow fairways and water everywhere rewards very little.
For the perspective of a whining pro on this, try the No Laying Up Bay Hill round up. It's interesting and thought provoking.

Harry Higgs spoke very well on the NLU podcast about why the Bay Hill setup is considered unfair by many of the pros.
 
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