fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
next youll be telling me he played to miss the lay up 40 yards left at 15 in case it pitched on the path/bridge lol
2020 Professional Golf Thread
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next youll be telling me he played to miss the lay up 40 yards left at 15 in case it pitched on the path/bridge lol
Oldham92
Hacker
With the exception of the muirfield one a couple of weeks ago there has been next to no penalty for a bad drive for a long time on the tour
davidy233
Tour Rookie
Tom Lewis ‘It was good fun’
davidy233
Tour Rookie
Major next week - this boy will have forgotten about going in the water at the 18th tonight by Thursday
pendodave
Tour Rookie
My thinking would be, there's a lake immediately left of the green, which is where the sunday pin is. It still left a very awkward pitch towards the water. A hole without any sort of bailout takes away the stategy to a certain extent. They dont do enough thinking as it is.
I'm also happy to see them pitching off tight lies, and having the ball running a distance when they miss a green, rather than than 4 inch rough surrounding every green like at muirfield village. Brooks's thin off the back at the last par 5 would gave stopped about 6 inches off the green, instead of giving him that awkward pitch back.
Only my opinion. As we've seen from the course design thread, one man's meat ....
Swinglowandslow
Well-known member
Yes. The shape of the ball at impact. It almost burst. No wonder they change balls frequently.
Swinglowandslow
Well-known member
Like I keep saying, if they played as we play, with no spotters, tv etc , they would lose those balls driven that far and wide. You could then add ten strokes a round.
Brilliant golfers, I know, but the courses and the people on them when they play don't half help them.
10 strokes a round??
Maybe on the bad days some would score higher. But a lot of them have good days where they'd score exactly what we see them do. I'm sure we've all smashed one into the cabbage and found it. They wouldn't lose everyone wide shot.
I'd back 70 pros to play closer to par with spotters than 70 amateurs to play the same course off the whites and be nearer nett par.
davidy233
Tour Rookie
Shakes my head at this
Dan2501
Tour Winner
What does this mean? I get the people on them bit, but what is it about the courses they play that helps them?
Also, 10 strokes is a ludicrous over-exaggeration.
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How often would they need driver at our courses?
Off the blues my course is a tad over 7,000 yds. But driver isn’t required all that much if you can hit a f/w wood over 240.
In 2018, in the Open qualifying, one guy got through to the next stage & he only hit irons off the tee.
JT and Koepka would be able to leave the chief in the bag most of the day if they wanted to.
Swinglowandslow
Well-known member
Well, maybe a bit OTT?, but when I see the stats that say 5 out if 14 fairways found off the tee? How many lost balls or ( proper) unplayable results is that?
I started looking at the courses they play after the first exhibition game at Seminole. That course looked to me to be unbelievably open. Yes, there was water, but otherwise you had a really good chance of finding an "off piste" ball.
Looking at the subsequent courses played, I didn't see a real lot of big bushes etc to drive into the middle of, more likely plenty of trees, but big enough to play out from under. When was the last time you saw a Pro's ball off the fairway( quite often), but how many times was it unplayable in a bush for example where a drop couldn't be made and the only option was to return to where the shot was last played.
The point about Pros playing better on our courses is irrelevant. I'm talking about if they were playing on the courses they do play but without spotters, spectators and TV, those are the people who can and do locate the balls the pros have hit from 300 yds away.
The Pro and pp only would not find too many, I think.
A lost ball is 2 shots more. 4 or 5 lost balls a round???
Of course it will never be proved or otherwise because the PGA tour will never ( rightly) be played under such circumstances, but it makes for interesting and amusing speculation ?
I started looking at the courses they play after the first exhibition game at Seminole. That course looked to me to be unbelievably open. Yes, there was water, but otherwise you had a really good chance of finding an "off piste" ball.
Looking at the subsequent courses played, I didn't see a real lot of big bushes etc to drive into the middle of, more likely plenty of trees, but big enough to play out from under. When was the last time you saw a Pro's ball off the fairway( quite often), but how many times was it unplayable in a bush for example where a drop couldn't be made and the only option was to return to where the shot was last played.
The point about Pros playing better on our courses is irrelevant. I'm talking about if they were playing on the courses they do play but without spotters, spectators and TV, those are the people who can and do locate the balls the pros have hit from 300 yds away.
The Pro and pp only would not find too many, I think.
A lost ball is 2 shots more. 4 or 5 lost balls a round???
Of course it will never be proved or otherwise because the PGA tour will never ( rightly) be played under such circumstances, but it makes for interesting and amusing speculation ?
pendodave
Tour Rookie
Come on. First major of the season. Albeit the pga always seems a bit meh to me.
Any money making insights?
Any hopes for the brits?
I'm thinking that Tyrell might be our best hope. No idea what he is for top brit, but probably too short.
Not looking forward to 1am (and the rest) finishes.
Any money making insights?
Any hopes for the brits?
I'm thinking that Tyrell might be our best hope. No idea what he is for top brit, but probably too short.
Not looking forward to 1am (and the rest) finishes.
Cherry13
Head Pro
I can’t see past Rory to be honest. No idea why, as his form hasn’t been the best since the return. Just fancy him to turn it on.
Got a few other ew bets, namely Tom Lewis and Andrew Landry (fancy a shorter hitter to do well), then a couple of outside punts on Adam Scott and Matt Fitzpatrick. Tbh I’m not expecting any money, and looking back at them I have no confidence in these bets. ?
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
cold weather, wind and rain forecast, sounds like its setting up perfectly for the brits
sunshine
Well-known member
cold weather, wind and rain forecast, sounds like its setting up perfectly for the brits
That rules out Rory.
Tiger too.
Dan2501
Tour Winner
That's Tiger out then.
Between Bryson and JT for me this week. Think it'll be one of the big hitters.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
gonna need to hit your share of fairways having seen some of the vids of the rough
think theres at least 10 or 12 guys who have really decent chances, lots of good guys on a very similar level,could easily write down 10 names and not be right this week, may be an advantage tomorrow to the early starters though
a few at bigger prices for me, berger, woodland and english
Dan2501
Tour Winner
Everyone's going to miss fairways, big advantage if you're hitting a wedge out of the rough though. Was the same at Bethpage where Brooks, DJ, List, Woodland and Rory were in the Top 10. I've had Bryson down as my PGA Champs winner for a few weeks and just have a feeling he's gonna win it, so can guarantee he'll have a meltdown and miss the cut now
Berger's a good shout, had a very solid season, scores well on Sundays (4th on tour this year in scoring average), if he's in contention on Sunday I can't see him fading.
Sungjae's a good outside bet I reckon as well. Puts on a ball-striking clinic, makes a ton of birdies, if he catches fire he could be right up there.
Berger's a good shout, had a very solid season, scores well on Sundays (4th on tour this year in scoring average), if he's in contention on Sunday I can't see him fading.
Sungjae's a good outside bet I reckon as well. Puts on a ball-striking clinic, makes a ton of birdies, if he catches fire he could be right up there.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
I am thinking fat pat. Can shape it both ways, is long enough, has the bottle to finish. Just needs a result on the odd dodgy decision.
