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X Factor

Liverpoolphil said:
It's very very hard to fix phone votes shows now - they get scrutinised so much

The people they get for auditions are seeker out to ensure they get in but once those live shows start the public chose the bottom two is it ?

You do see some talented people on the shows - it's a shame they get over shadowed by some people dying for publicity without having an ounce of talent
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Aye but they can only fix it to a certain degree, the public only get to choose who gets booted off don't they? It isn't really a true reflection as it's completely scripted up to that point. I'd love to speak to someone who's been to one of the live shows to see if there's any live interaction so they can gauge who is the most popular during the show.
 
Didn't watch last night and deleted it from my Sky Planner...enough is enough!

Anyhow, swooning over Gary Barlow was the only part worth it last year!

Might tune in to the live shows though!!
 
It's all 5hite and not true, one guy last night " I am only a van driver" what a croc he has been singing on the circuit for years learning his trade, admit he did have a good voice, When Paul potts won he was portrayed as being a phone shop worker and no mention that he had had vocal coaching from Pavarotti.
The wife loves it so I have to watch it, imo Id rather watch Eastenders now thats true to life lol!!!!
 
The producers set out to sensationalise and make 'train-crash' TV. they edit so Joe public votes for the ones they want to go forward.

Its pretty much like the rest of the so-called talent and 'reality' style TV total rubbish - even makes you say thank goodness for Sky Sports !!
 
How many of the winners (and runners up) have really gone on to have long and significant careers? Indeed how many have gone on after their initial single/album so all this clap trap about finding a global superstar is just nonsense
 
I think the format is getting very stale, so they just make it more 'extreme'. I do not have a problem with talent shows as such, and there have been some good bands coming out of them. I'm sure that the vast majority of golfers would not appreciate them, but bands like One Direction and Girls Aloud have made some excellent 'pop' music. Which is just as valid as so called more real music genre as heavy metal or indie rock.
 
Whole thing is awful, seemed much better as recently as 2 yrs ago when there were some good singers involved and a better judging panel, now there isn't one musician on the judging panel, just 2 businessmen and 2 girl band 'singers' who cant actually sing. What we need is a battle of the bands show where any unsigned act can compete for a record deal. Rules are they have to play all their own music live using musical instruments and it has to be original material, no covers. That would be more interesting.
 
Absolute garbage.

I see that they have launched a free app so viewers can tell Simon Cowell who they like and therefore who they are likely to pay stupid amounts of money via phone voting to stay in. That means that SC tells the rest of the judges who HAS to stay in based on these results as well as based on who he thinks he can sell down the river in a few weeks.

And that means keeping rubbish or annoying singers in the show too. They need pantomime baddies, so that when it comes to them being in "the bottom two" against a sob-story [such as:

a) I'm not conventionally beautiful- all my beauty is in my voice. (Wow, I can't believe that a fat girl can sing well, despite her waist)
b) A member of my immediate family died recently (bonus points for spouse, extra bonus points if they are survived by kids)
c) Addictions (over-use of the words 'journey' and 'rock' to be added for extra effect)]

then muppets at home end up spending their money to ensure that the widowed fatty with no septum stays in the competition- and they feel GOOD about it, like they've just seen a fly-covered African child on TV, set up a £2 a month Direct Debit but then sat back down to watch Downton with their chinese takeaway, prosecco and Ferrero Rocher. #justlikegandhi

X Factor is a vehicle for making money off of saps who both watch and enter the 'competition'. Of course it's fixed to a degree, but who the hell wants to investigate this? The advertisers? ITV group? The production company? Don't make me laugh. X Factor is part of the moronification of the UK and just one of many smoke-screens to the more important things in life. But at least Cheryl's dresses are pretty but 'ooooh- what has she done to her hair today?!! Retweet if u agree lolz'. There just has to be more to life.

I don't want to be too critical of the viewing public- they have the right to veg out in front of the TV after a hard week at work but it's definitely not something I want to spend my Saturday and Sunday nights watching.
 
They get a big enough audience - they keep making it - regardless of how rubbish, exploitative, garbage etc some of us might think.

A bit like that tedious, trite and banal soap called Downton Abbey - something else we will be stuck with until viewing figures drop and/or the US channels stops buying it.

It's not just reality TV dross that fills ITV/BBC channels.
 
virtuocity said:
Absolute garbage.

I see that they have launched a free app so viewers can tell Simon Cowell who they like and therefore who they are likely to pay stupid amounts of money via phone voting to stay in. That means that SC tells the rest of the judges who HAS to stay in based on these results as well as based on who he thinks he can sell down the river in a few weeks.

And that means keeping rubbish or annoying singers in the show too. They need pantomime baddies, so that when it comes to them being in "the bottom two" against a sob-story [such as:

a) I'm not conventionally beautiful- all my beauty is in my voice. (Wow, I can't believe that a fat girl can sing well, despite her waist)
b) A member of my immediate family died recently (bonus points for spouse, extra bonus points if they are survived by kids)
c) Addictions (over-use of the words 'journey' and 'rock' to be added for extra effect)]

then muppets at home end up spending their money to ensure that the widowed fatty with no septum stays in the competition- and they feel GOOD about it, like they've just seen a fly-covered African child on TV, set up a £2 a month Direct Debit but then sat back down to watch Downton with their chinese takeaway, prosecco and Ferrero Rocher. #justlikegandhi

X Factor is a vehicle for making money off of saps who both watch and enter the 'competition'. Of course it's fixed to a degree, but who the hell wants to investigate this? The advertisers? ITV group? The production company? Don't make me laugh. X Factor is part of the moronification of the UK and just one of many smoke-screens to the more important things in life. But at least Cheryl's dresses are pretty but 'ooooh- what has she done to her hair today?!! Retweet if u agree lolz'. There just has to be more to life.

I don't want to be too critical of the viewing public- they have the right to veg out in front of the TV after a hard week at work but it's definitely not something I want to spend my Saturday and Sunday nights watching.
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methinks the man profeth too much!:rofl:



I like it, so does my girlfriend and my ex- emotional and entertaining tv- usually it's insecure people who moan about it- thats a fact from this months Psychology periodical
 
AlexDarling said:
methinks the man profeth too much!:rofl:



I like it, so does my girlfriend and my ex- emotional and entertaining tv- usually it's insecure people who moan about it- thats a fact from this months Psychology periodical
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I think that's a matter of opinion. I could say trashy and manipulative.;)

But I do agree that if someone likes it then hey, it's a free world, why not. And there's plenty of other channels available for those of us that don't watch it.
 
I watch it with the missus and enjoy it - there are moments of "That was scripted" or "They're only doing this for effect" but otherwise it's something on the telly at the weekend. As HK said, if you don't like it, there's only 799 other channels to watch...

Being one of the most popular shows on TV says it all really... if it draws in the biggest audience, they must be doing something right! I don't think I've ever voted, but the live shows are a bit better than the build up, that's all a bit OTT nowadays with swapping chairs and singoffs and not-great singers getting 4 'yeses' because they've got a sob story.

The dark side of me enjoys watching the first few live shows the most, where those who have got through on a sob story have to actually bite the bullet and perform live on TV. One or two often choke and mess something up or look like a rabbit in headlights, which is always nice to watch.

As for fixed to who wins... I'm not certain that's true, as each judge / mentor gets a pretty hefty bonus for being the winning mentor I believe, so they all fight their corner when it comes to the crunch!
 
dufferman said:
I watch it with the missus and enjoy it - there are moments of "That was scripted" or "They're only doing this for effect" but otherwise it's something on the telly at the weekend. As HK said, if you don't like it, there's only 799 other channels to watch...

Being one of the most popular shows on TV says it all really... if it draws in the biggest audience, they must be doing something right! I don't think I've ever voted, but the live shows are a bit better than the build up, that's all a bit OTT nowadays with swapping chairs and singoffs and not-great singers getting 4 'yeses' because they've got a sob story.

The dark side of me enjoys watching the first few live shows the most, where those who have got through on a sob story have to actually bite the bullet and perform live on TV. One or two often choke and mess something up or look like a rabbit in headlights, which is always nice to watch.

As for fixed to who wins... I'm not certain that's true, as each judge / mentor gets a pretty hefty bonus for being the winning mentor I believe, so they all fight their corner when it comes to the crunch!
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where did you hear that? link?
 
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